Kittens Game: Combinatorics Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WIN

[Zugzwang]

it may have broken due to draft conflicts

[anon21242589]

oof

[Zugzwang]

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[Zugzwang]

ok it is back online and on the way to do that

[Marluna]

No.
Mainly because I don’t have a full readlist yet.

I go with vibes most of the times and push people, if they do things I find scummy.

That’s why I thought Kii is towny, and haven’t seen tutuu as town yet, but both of this vibes goes against the town consensus. (So right now I want to wait and listen, since most likely I am more wrong than 8 other town members.)

[Zugzwang]

ok I am now bored of joycats
time to turn it off and maybe make it do something new tomorrow

[Zugzwang]

is this to say you think Tutuu is a wolf?

[Zugzwang]

also can you give any reads that you do have, then?

[Zugzwang]

it’s ok to be wrong, but you have to share your thoughts if we’re gonna find you as town

[Marluna]

I am saying I don’t see them as locktown based on the things she said.

[Zugzwang]

oh
idk if that’s consensus or if that’s just me being loud and mech town tho
It’s definitely a read I wouldn’t have if I hadn’t played with Tutuu a lot of times

[Zugzwang]

anyway I have to sleep now nya nya nya
but yeah post thoughts so we can find you town (this also goes for @Ash)

[Marluna]

Zug, bean, Derp town. (Duh)

I don’t feel kii is mafia. (I just don’t have the usual I can’t trust this guy feeling, like when he is scum, and I am town.)

The thing I remember tutuu doing was claiming obvtown, pushing a kii/tutuu/zug jail, and accusing me, when I doubted their townclaim. I don’t particularly see either as town indicative.

Bionic is a big question mark. I should trust Derp’s clear on them, cuz I most likely won’t find anything useful even if I revisit the slot.

I just don’t feel Somo is alligned with anyone with their whole 2v3 debate D1.

I probably ISO the rest, cuz I don’t even remember, who I missed from this list. (I know I haven’t given a read on Hippo yet, but unlike Bionic, I might come a conclusion based on their ISO.)

[Kiiruma]

It’s very much -EV but honestly I wouldn’t hate it because it would clear me and honestly at this point I’m thinking that might be key for us potentially winning.

[Eddie]

Marluna (9): SirDerpsAlot, guavagudetama, Kiiruma, Someone, Zugzwang, Marluna, Frostwolf103, tutuu, Bionic
Kiiruma (7): SirDerpsAlot, Someone, Zugzwang, Marluna, Frostwolf103, tutuu, Bionic
Ash (6): Kiiruma, Zugzwang, Marluna, Frostwolf103, tutuu, Bionic
Hippopablompoyeetus (3): SirDerpsAlot, guavagudetama, Someone
Someone (2): guavagudetama, Hippopablompoyeetus
tutuu (1): Kiiruma
Frostwolf103 (1): Hippopablompoyeetus
Bionic (1): Hippopablompoyeetus

Not Voting (2): Ash, beancat

[Marluna]

Hippo’s ISO

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Me marluna kiiruma will have 1 wolf and then itll be fun beefing tomorow and i love being in a dome

This just looks TMI. Also preparing to push one of me/kii later. (Which he did during the first half of D2.) Even switched their targets between me and Kii if I remember correctly.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

I dont want derps in top 3 today with kiiruma cuz I have reasonable doubt over derps too and then kiiruma might wiggle out of being outted

In a T!kii world this statement it’s extremely incriminating.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Clearly mafia want someone in top 3 for whatever reason lol

This statement just pops up repeatedly in Hippo’s ISO.
The one thing I learned from Flicker, when somebody states the same obvious statement, (Or the statement, which should sound obvious.) It is very likely to push a false agenda.

So if Hippo is wolf, he is very unlikely to alligned with Kii/Somo (the top three at that moment was Kii/Zug/Somo

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Ftr i fully retract my townread on marluna so

This looks like they realized they can’t build a proper mafia world, if the Kii/hippo/me trio jail comes out as a 1/3.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

I’d rather me / Kiiruma but me / Marluna or me / Someone also works.

“These are definetly not my partners, so it easy to frame them, if the result come out as 1/2.”

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Guys ive figured it out

Its Kiiruma / Ash

Guys, let’s remove me from the jail, cuz I will be suspicious, if it came back as 1/3, instead put in one of my teammates, so the result won’t change.
If Hippo is wolf, Ash is definetly his partner.

So, if the current Ash/Kii/me trio came back as a 1/3 it’s most likely Hippo is scum with Ash.
If anything but that, Hippo is very likely to be town.

[Ash]

Nah.
[disappears for the next twelve and a third hours]

[Marluna]

If it’s a 0/3 i don’t think Wolf Hippo would want to exchange their spot with a town member and with this indirectly clearing both me and Kii the same time. (The two most sus player by consensus, I think.)

If it’s a 2/3 and I am wrong on Kii, I simply can’t see Wolf Hippo alligned with wolf Kii.

In both cases, Hippo is just town in my opinion.

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

VOTE: Marluna
VOTE: Kiirumaa
VOTE: Ash

[Marluna]

Guava’s ISO

@guavagudetama

They said it so it must be true locktown

Their second post immediately ping me. (This was their response for tutuu declaring themselves as confirmed town.

@guavagudetama

Why would literally anyone ever claim mason that doesn’t really seem beneficial

@guavagudetama

And claiming mason as mafia gets you suspicion from all the real masons + if the mafia all claim it we just jail them to check and they lose

That’s the exact scenario wanted to avoid,I think. If the mafia beamed the mason, mafia simply can claim Masons together. (Against the real Masons.) If you have only one day left, you can’t jail all Mason claims.

This conversation just makes me believe more Kii is town. Also Kii and guava probably isn’t wolf together.

@guavagudetama

VOTE: Bionic
VOTE: SirDerpsAlot
VOTE: Ash

Kiiruma’s worries are fair enough that I’m willing to switch to this despite being much less confident y’all are town LOL
I think if anything this will be a 2/3 before it’s a 0/3 because idk how much I trust Bionic or Ash but apparently 2/3 is just as helpful to the wincon as 0/3 so I’m chillin

This vote would fit with an Ash/Hippo/guava wolf team. Guava tries to push in one of his teammates, and if it cames back as 1/3 they could easily fram Bionic.

@guavagudetama

I wish Bionic was scum

This just pings me again…
In a wolf!guava world Bionic is 100% town.

@guavagudetama

It’s not Kiiruma

VOTE: Someone
VOTE: Frostwolf
VOTE: Marluna

THIS is the team if it’s truly in that five imo

This vote was in D2 already.
I don’t know, if mafia has higher chance with zero town in the jail after a 0 at first day, or should they try to put their teammates in the jail. @Zugzwang what you think?

@guavagudetama

VOTE: Someone
VOTE: Marluna
VOTE: Hippo

Sheeping the Hippo vote because maybe I’m wrong but I don’t reeeeally get it
I expect this to be at least 1 but most likely 2

I clearly can imagine a Hippo/Ash/guava world after this vote.