Library of Ruina FM - Day 3 - Mafia Wins

[tutuu]

@Frostwolf103

In case this is not clear to you, I have hard mech evidence against Gummy. You’re discouraging to continue having Gummy executed.

Frostwolf, you visiting Gummy with a disruptive action and being told you were roleblocked is not “hard mech evidence against Gummy”. You’re considering a mafia role that passively blocks everyone that visits them, possibly only blocking the bad actions. If this roleblock is loud, isn’t that kind of outing? Is it really a good passive mafia protective ability, seeing how you are suspecting gummy for it, and you probably wouldn’t have, if you weren’t informed you were roleblocked and she didn’t have this hypothetical passive? Also, this is an experimental game, Willow most likely went wild with the roles. I would keep an open mind for all kind of stuff.

I don’t think snow’s thing on gummy is conclusive. Snow investigated that gumny is an investigative role that was weak on N0 (pre-game). This could be Roland but this could also be a town role.

Imo gummy is incredibly pure socially and that overrides the rest, for me.

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On the bright side of things, I believe that you believe that Gummy is outed. I believe that you believe in this evidence, going so far as calling my play “anti-town”. So I will townread you

[iamagummybear]

Look im sorry but ur talking out of ur ass

Like genuinely ur coming up w crackpot theories

Wouldn’t snow be told if i had kill power

[Zone_Q11]

@Spiritualized

from this game’s perspective i think it’s most likely that keypages are “fakeclaims” w/ real mechanical abilities essentially

Yeah. That’s indeed what I figured out:

@Zone_Q11

With the existence of Key Pages revealed to the public, nobody is cleared for having a mechanically-proven role. For instance, it is confirmed that Rue has a Messenger ability, but that does not prove she is Town, since Mafia could have Messenger as their Key Page.

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@EggYolk

So I guess I’m saying: don’t forget me!!

I never forgot about you. You never left my townreads.

@EggYolk

Anyways. I’m looking for someone who has good, and importantly stable and comprehensible reads. Anyone want to volunteer?

tutuu’s reads-list are good, but I’d argue it is stable. It is good because it is continuously updating. Whereas mine is kinda… stuck-in-the-past, I guess?

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@ACE

Okay, then why is your vote not there?

​ Apologies if you already explained—I have yet to backread.

Prime, you might want to ask Ashley about that.

@Zone_Q11

…oh shit. I cannot change my vote.

@Zone_Q11

I can’t explain how or why, but my vote is stuck on Rue for the remainder of D2.

@ACE

What, like, if you try to make a post that includes a vote it doesn’t let you post it?

@Zone_Q11

It is not a systematic restraint. It is… Gah, I didn’t read something properly, and now my vote is simply locked on to Rue.

Like, I probably wouldn’t change my vote anyway, but now I simply cannot afford to change my vote.

@ACE

oh, so in your ability DM or something at the start of the day you got a DM that said

YOUR VOTE WILL STICK TO THE PERSON YOU VOTE FOR

and you ignored it, and you just saw it

@Zone_Q11

I will neither confirm nor deny your statement.

[Frostwolf103]

Mafia factional kill power is not a type.

[Frostwolf103]

Surely you know that every mafia member can use their ability alongside with the factional kill?

[tutuu]

I believe this confidence. You’re town. I’m confident you’re wrong on gummy but that’s okay, let’s see if we can work this out.

[iamagummybear]

@tutuu there was a game where i caught frost with motion detector late game

Idr the name but it was a couple of months ago and i caught frost with motion detector and he like refused to engage with me

It feels like thst rn but i guess he thinks im.outed so maybe it’s different

[Frostwolf103]

Yeah?

[iamagummybear]

YOU SAID I HAD STRONGMAN???
MAFIA FACTIONAL DOESNT TEND TO JUST BE STRONGMAN

[iamagummybear]

U literally said u think im strongman

Then ur saying it’s factional.kp??? Wtaf bro

[Frostwolf103]

The reason I got caught because I didn’t convinced everyone with the fake role well enough, had I pay attention to that swapping bodyguard well, I would at least got away for one night at least.

[tutuu]

He believes that you passively have the strongman modifier

Frostwolf, I think gummy’s counter argument is fair

A mafia member passively being permanently strongman completely invalidates town protective and disruptive roles

What’s the point of Leafia’s role if w!Gummy can just punch through?

Also, we know Leafia was redirected

Why do wolves bother redirecting Leafia, if w!Gummy could have just punched through her to kill Achro @Frostwolf103

[iamagummybear]

@tutuu

He believes that you passively have the strongman modifier

He also said i have another lassive that precents action manipulation against me

[ACE]

Ha. Ha. Haaaaaa…

Oops.

[Wazza]

How can Gummy have bookhunted her own role if the role we received doesn’t say anything about it being a bookhunter…?

@The_Head

With the burning of the Unstable Book of the Black Silence, the following information is revealed:

• Roland is a Mafia role that provides a number of investigative options to the Mafia.

• Roland has the capability to provide useful information to the Mafia. However, most of these come in the form of indirect information, or otherwise inconclusive information when viewed in isolation.
• When Roland has successfully used all of his abilities, whether or not he gained information, he gains an ability that lets him learn the full text of every in-play Town role & their Books.

[Wazza]

This is the only burnt book we have, so how can we have Gummy bookhunting herself, especially since you’re claiming something completely different?

[Frostwolf103]

@tutuu

He believes that you passively have the strongman modifier

Frostwolf, I think gummy’s counter argument is fair

A mafia member passively being permanently strongman completely invalidates town protective and disruptive roles

What’s the point of Leafia’s role if w!Gummy can just punch through?

Also, we know Leafia was redirected

Why do wolves bother redirecting Leafia, if w!Gummy could have just punched through her to kill Achro @Frostwolf103

I think it’s tied to the book burning that give this effect that night, permanent would be absolutely foolish

[iamagummybear]

@tutuu ik u think frost is town off this but i can’t see it

[Frostwolf103]

thats nice way of saying deflect this deflect this

[iamagummybear]

What are you talking about