[Misc] One Night Ultimate Werewolf (10/10) - YBW wins!

[Squirrel2412]

was there anyone else that leafia pushed besides kii?

[mansnicks]

@Squirrel2412

I’m tryna figure out if leafia’s paired with anyone atm

Not with Kii, obviously.
For whatever reason, I don’t remember interactions or comments about or from Leafia from or to YBW or Daeron. Of the 4, between the 4, Leafia was the least discussed.

[mansnicks]

well, YBW agrees with Zorvo that Leafia is firmly in her town meta and Krii is firmly in his wolf meta

[Squirrel2412]

mmm
good to know

so ybw/leaf could be paired

and that gets rid of the kii/ybw + minion!leafpossibility

[mansnicks]

@Squirrel2412

so ybw/leaf could be paired

#299 has that “I now think ur a wolf even tho I thought u werent one before” though
But also, #299 gives the impression that ybw is on good terms with nobody of the 4-group

[mansnicks]

@YoubutWorse

I think killing Kiiruma or Daeron is how we win, leaning towards Daeron personally

nvm

[Leafia]

Which makes you minion.

@YoubutWorse

bc if they were the drunk and didnt pick the wolf card, they would just claim drunk and claim what they picked

Drunk doesn’t know what it picked.

@Kiiruma

I take that back smh

Laughs

@Kiiruma

Well I don’t really know what I should be doing here, I’ve been trying to solve our limited PoE and I do think the best wolf is in YBW and Leafia, Leafia moreso due to their posts and I think trying to be derpcleared, acting overtly oblivious.

This never comes from a villager. Obvious minion.

@mansnicks

Voting Kii is what most people seem to suggest based on metas.

Vote Daeron. Kiiruma is obviously minion and Daeron the werewolf.

@Zorvo

Your so fucking obviously the minion trying to protect the Werewolf.

This is one of the rare times that t!Zorvo is correct.

@Kiiruma

I’d want to believe in Leafia too, however, I personally believe that Leafia being Solo WW who saw Seer in the middle and therefore decided to claim seeing a villager was a good and safe move on her part. It also potentially would’ve thrown sus on me or Wazza if there was a 3rd villa.

And you know perfectly well thatbI’d never do that as a solo werewolf.

@Zorvo

He doesn’t have to be fucking Drunk.

Your so damn wolfy for pushing this false narrative!!

Agreed.

@Kiiruma

I’m being insanely biased (and I’ll admit it) because I feel like others are refusing to believe it

Because it’s obviously not the case.

@Kiiruma

I didn’t say that ‘when you’re not thinking you’re not smart’
I did say that you’re often mistaken on me.
I do apologise if that was quite mean but I know our experience together includes a… reduced accuracy of reads.

Honestly, Kiiruma is reminding me of how I acted in our BotF game together when we were scumbuddies and I was trying to steer the execution away from him when the demon was Lil Monsta except with Daeron in his place.

@Kiiruma

I don’t have any reason to think Daeron is WW over Leafia or YBW, any are possible.
Daeron is the only who is actively seeming Drunk.

He doesn’t seem one bit drunk to me.

@Kiiruma

Because Daeron has been both solving (Towny) and openly jesting (Wolfy) which perfectly fits the Drunk who is unsure what to do.

How has he been villagery?

@mansnicks

Currently I’m between voting either Daeron or you.
Daeron’s playstyle could fit both boxes - wolf faking tanner and tanner being tanner.
Your platystyle could fit both boxes - wolf and town - as Daeron’s playstyle is definetly either wolf or tanner.

Zorvo is mechconfirmed to be town.

@Kiiruma

Daeron ain’t the best shout though imo

He is if town wants to win.

@mansnicks

Currently I don’t see a reason not to vote YBW over Daeron.

Nearly 100% certain YBW is tanner. How’s that for a reason?

@Kiiruma

I personally believe Daeron could be the Drunk.
But that was just some theorising there.

If they’re the drunk they 100% picked the card on the left which is a werewolf one. Otherwise they would’ve just claimed drunk in the first place.

@mansnicks

You just love fancy theories. /jk
Honestly, how do you and Zorvo not mindmeld? Your thoughts on both Daeron and YBW are basically the same, just slightly different reasonings.

One is a wolf and the other is a villager.

@Kiiruma

When myself or Daeron is voted and Leafia turns out to be evil, I’mma be sad lol

I’m obviously not evil here.

@Gorta

does town lose if tanner wins?

Only if we don’t also execute a werewolf.

@Kiiruma

If we can tie it, then yes. But the odds of us actually being able to isn’t high. People don’t wanna vote Leaf.

The werewolf and minion do.

@Gorta

I could see minion claiming tanner to avoid an execution

Minion only wants to avoid being executed if there’s no werewolves.

@Daeron

We all know YBW can’t be minion or tanner (because I am) since they waited very long to see what to claim. A minion would’ve cc’d to take the heat off of the ww and onto themselves; or to create a claim for wolf.
YBW cannot be tanner or minion. YBW is evil. YBW is YouButWolf. Kill them.

If you were Tanner, you’d want to be executed. You obviously don’t want to be executed.

@Daeron

Let’s first establish consensus that YBW is evil. Are we all able to do that?
If so, can we establish consensus that they cannot be tanner or minion pls?
Is anyone able to give a reason as to why YBW is not werewolf?

Because you’re werewolf. It’s obvious.

@Daeron

Even if Kiiruma is evil; they’d not be werewolf.
Even if I was evil (which I am, tanner), I would not be werewolf
YBW is werewolf in every single world

You’re werewolf in every single world. This is not how a tanner would act and Kiiruma is defending you like you’re confirmed town.

@Daeron

Okay. If you don’t believe YBW is werewolf, what are they?

Tanner obviously.

@mansnicks

How’s Kii defending Daeron while at the same time being the one who pushes the theory of Daeron being a drunk who turned werewolf? I might be crazy, but to me Kii feels like the 2nd most person to push for a Daeron elimination next only to you.

He’s not pushing the theory of Daeron being werewolf. He’s pushing the theory of Daeron being good.

Kii is doing the exact opposite of pushing for a Daeron execution.

@Daeron

Why does YBW get the benefit of the doubt and I don’t?

You’re literally claiming tanner and your minion is defending you super hard.

@Zorvo

How much have you been paying attention to this game?
Be honest.

I’d say he’s been paying very little if any attention.

@Kiiruma

Which isn’t a good move for Seer usually >.> Hence why my thoughts are Leaf is just a WW who saw it and decided to instantly say it.

How isn’t it a good idea to get info out as soon as possible?

@Kiiruma

Correct, I’m a good boyo, I’m a Villager :D

You misspelled minion here.

@Kiiruma

Well… you think wrong.
I’m good and so is Daeron.

How can you possibly be so sure that Daeron is good even if he was the drunk? It’s not possible to know for sure.

@Kiiruma

Correct, but, I just think she’s evil who saw it and therefore jumped to claim it instantly lol

Which isn’t something you’d consider if you were a villager.

@Zorvo

Why would she risk that?

I wouldn’t.

@Kiiruma

It’s not a risk.
Solo WW gets to see a centre card.

Leafia sees the Seer card.
Boom free bluff.

It’s still a risk.

@Squirrel2412

I exist once more

has anything happened other than the 4 people in the poe arguing about who should be voted out

Not really.

@Kiiruma

Anyway hi, I’m 23 now

Happy birthday.

@Squirrel2412

was there anyone else that leafia pushed besides kii?

Daeron the werewolf.

[Squirrel2412]

@Leafia

Drunk doesn’t know what it picked.

they know which card tho

and since you said what 2 of the cards were then I’m pry sure drunk would know unless they picked exactly the right card

[YoubutWorse]

@mansnicks

ybw what was the idea here btw, why not claim immediately?

TBH I just wanted to know if anyone swapped with me at any point since I mistankely thought drunk took from other players

@mansnicks

though minion would be big brain play)

minion is what Im thiniking though

@Daeron

YBW is evil. YBW is YouButWolf. Kill them.

Does anybody actually believe this

@Daeron

Instead, YBW waited until gorta claimed. It’s because YBW didn’t know what gorta was but needed a target.

I mean, I did know what Gorta was. I guess I should’ve softed it but like thats something that comes to mind second for me personally. I also would prob never immediatley claim in case I got swapped to become evil

@Zorvo

Wolfy: they thought every role in the setup was unique but claimed to get mason from Gorta which is obviously more then one.

I thought every role was unique except mason and WW bc they came in pairs

@Leafia

This never comes from a villager. Obvious minion.

I think Daeron is the minion honestly

@Leafia

Nearly 100% certain YBW is tanner. How’s that for a reason?

? Why

@Leafia

If you were Tanner, you’d want to be executed. You obviously don’t want to be executed.

I think Daeron is a WIFOM slot, they could be tanner, they could be WW, they could be minion, and with the way they have played I think they are most likely minion

[YoubutWorse]

mainly bc they have kept pushing agenda after claiming while I think an actual tanner or WW may just disappear from thread

[mansnicks]

this game has no private chats right?

[YoubutWorse]

Nope

[Squirrel2412]

@Leafia

@YoubutWorse

bc if they were the drunk and didnt pick the wolf card, they would just claim drunk and claim what they picked

Drunk doesn’t know what it picked.

@Leafia

If they’re the drunk they 100% picked the card on the left which is a werewolf one. Otherwise they would’ve just claimed drunk in the first place.

ok wait

I think you’re just saying the same things here

[mansnicks]

@YoubutWorse

I mean, I did know what Gorta was. I guess I should’ve softed it but like thats something that comes to mind second for me personally. I also would prob never immediatley claim in case I got swapped to become evil

Aren’t I the only role in the game that could make a town you a wolf you? I claimed first post in the game, there was no reason for you to wait on your claim for the purpose of waiting in case your alignment changed.

[YoubutWorse]

Yes, but as I said earlier I mistaked what Drunk’s ability did as I thought they picked from other players instead of the center (I think thats how me and my friends have been playing it and thats wrong lmao), so I thought there swas still another role

[Squirrel2412]

hm
so you’re saying that you’ve been playing drunk like robber?

[YoubutWorse]

im confused what this is supposed to mean

[YoubutWorse]

and like if ur scumreading for waiting I can’t stop you from doing that but I had my own reasons for it and if thats the logic people are using I think its kinda dumb

[Leafia]

That’s true and if Daeron was drunk that picked the middle card he’d have no reason to hide the fact that he’s a drunk. Same if he picked the card on the right. He’d only have a reason to lie if he picked the one on the right.

@YoubutWorse

Does anybody actually believe this

I believe that you’re tanner. Does that count?

@YoubutWorse

I think Daeron is the minion honestly

He wouldn’t be claiming tanner as minion and Kiiruma wouldn’t be harddefending him.

@YoubutWorse

? Why

The way you didn’t want to claim right away. I mean,you could be telling the truth about being a robber I guess, but it’s obvious to me that Kiiruma is the monion and Daeron the werewolf.

@YoubutWorse

I think Daeron is a WIFOM slot, they could be tanner, they could be WW, they could be minion, and with the way they have played I think they are most likely minion

Their play makes absolutely no sense if they’re minion. 98.5% chance of being a werewolf. 1.5% chance of being tanner.

@YoubutWorse

mainly bc they have kept pushing agenda after claiming while I think an actual tanner or WW may just disappear from thread

Why the heck would they do that?

[Squirrel2412]

legit
if you have drunk take from other players it’s literally just robber without getting to see the role you take