Need For Speed: Most Wanted SFM - TOWN VICTORIOUS

[Garfooled]

Why not?

[Lemonfairy]

what other viable team compositions do you think would work?
what does your team look like rn (if you have one in mind)?

[Garfooled]

Hmmmm… Good question. Atm I’m too zoned in on either Kiiruma or Eliza.
Icet/Eliza could be one.
Kiiruma/Lucifer could definitely be one too.
Kiiruma/Hazard had theatre.
Wiz and Leafia… I’ll have to look at again

[Garfooled]

Creature is oddly fixated on me. Which confuses me.

[Lemonfairy]

yeah, I was looking at that too
I think she could definitely put a team in scumleans

a little unsure for scumread

I think usually for anyone, the tendency is to spread out teammates across the different groups, with more in the upper groups and a few in the lower groups

Leafia herself is in townread
there could be another one in townread and one in null
alternatively 2 in null
or 1 in null and 1 in scumlean

one thing with scumlean though is that there’s only 3 so it feels less safe
but then there’s also the rule of 3 but it might be done on purpose too to throw us off

there’s too much uncertainty there tbh

[Lemonfairy]

I would look at other stuff first and only use the list as a guide

[LuciferChaos]

Hello! I know there are not many posts from me because this isn’t the main way I play social deduction, am in basically full time education and this is my first game here and I don’t know how to contribute

[Lemonfairy]

@Garfooled

Kiiruma/Hazard had theatre.

do you mind pointing out where this was?

@Garfooled

Wiz and Leafia… I’ll have to look at again

I don’t think this one is likely

@Garfooled

Icet/Eliza could be one.

did you have a reason for icet/Eliza?
I do remember ice scumreading Eliza first but then they had a pretty consistent TR after that
I’m not sure Leafia would fit into this team though?

[Lemonfairy]

do you think it’s scummy fixation? or towny?

[Garfooled]

I’ll get back to you on those later

I seen ur posts

[Lemonfairy]

can you share a reads list pls?
basically, you put the people you think are the towniest at the top and the people you think are scummiest at the bottom
and leave a space between each group of people

here is an example:

townread:
person 1
person 2
person 3

townlean:
person 4
person 5

scumlean:
person 6
person 7
person 8

scumread:
person 9
person 10

[Lemonfairy]

no rush

[LuciferChaos]

I can’t do a full list of reads because I don’t know half of you. It would all be senseless bullshit

[Lemonfairy]

@LuciferChaos if you’re struggling to form a reads list, telling me your top 3 town and top 2 scum is fine too

[Lemonfairy]

I haven’t played with a lot of the players here before too, don’t worry about that
if you have to make it up, make it up

if you don’t have a read on someone, you can put them near the middle (and call it “null”)

[WizKvothe]

I can understand this feeling since this is my first game here as well and I’m overwhelmed by everyone here. It’s hard to give a full read on people because I don’t have anything meta about them but atleast you can throw a general sus and trust lean like I kinda trust kirumma and lemonfairy while I distrust Eliza, jake, Gorta and Lucifer.

[Lemonfairy]

can you put into words why you trust/distrust these people?
the main difference I have noticed here is… well, postcount

also, what are your thoughts on icet, hazard, and garfooled?

[WizKvothe]

Sure!

Kiruma’s theory about Eliza being strongman sounds very compelling to me plus their general attitude seems townie. I would say the same for you- I can see the desire to solve the game in you which is townie.

But I would also point if Eliza flips town then kiru is prolly wolf.

As for jake, I think I have mentioned my reasons for him to be a wolf before(just check my iso) and if he flips wolf chances are one of Luci and Gorta are wolves too (reasons also in my iso).

For icet, I feel he is null for me. I don’t remember properly but didn’t he put the leafia vote very late the last phase? That felt odd to me tbh(it’s possible I’m mixing him with someone else but I found it odd last phase). This also includes jake btw who put the vote late when they felt leafia was a lost case.

Garfooled can flip anything tbh but I’m leaning a bit more to wolf side. I can see Alexa protecting garfooled by saying that she role blocked him because he was supposed to prevent the kill which did happen.

For Hazzard, I’m null. I need to iso them properly to get a read on them.

[Lemonfairy]

votes D2 before EOD:

Leafia (4): JakeTheWolfie, WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos
LuciferChaos (4): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia, IcetFeelsPain
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature
Jesus (1): Litten

Litten votes Leafia:

Leafia (5): JakeTheWolfie, WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos, Litten
LuciferChaos (4): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia, IcetFeelsPain
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature

Icet unvotes:

Leafia (5): JakeTheWolfie, WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos, Litten
LuciferChaos (3): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature

Not Voting (1): IcetFeelsPain

Litten unvotes:

Leafia (4): JakeTheWolfie, WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos
LuciferChaos (3): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature

Not Voting (2): IcetFeelsPain, Litten

Icet votes Leafia:

Leafia (5): JakeTheWolfie, WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos, IcetFeelsPain
LuciferChaos (3): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature

Not Voting (1): Litten

Litten votes Leafia:

Leafia (6): JakeTheWolfie, WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos, IcetFeelsPain, Litten
LuciferChaos (3): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature

Jake votes Leafia harder?

Leafia (6): WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos, IcetFeelsPain, Litten, JakeTheWolfie
LuciferChaos (3): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature

Leafia self-votes:

Leafia (7): WizKvothe, Lemonfairy, LuciferChaos, IcetFeelsPain, Litten, JakeTheWolfie, Leafia
Creature (2): Kiiruma, Gorta
WizKvothe (2): Hazardwaste, Creature
LuciferChaos (2): Garfooled, ElizaThePsycho

[IcetFeelsPain]

@Lemonfairy

if there’s time, I’ll take a look at Eliza again and try to towncase her if needed
barring all mech, I still gut townread her

same

@Garfooled

Kiiruma is wolf if Eliza is town.
That post was to theorize what Eliza was trying to convey as a wolf. I wasn’t trying to clear Eliza there.

agreed

@Lemonfairy

not any posts in particular
it was more a combination of many posts slowly ruling out other options

relatable I feel the same way

@WizKvothe

So, I was analysing leafia’s sus list. She had Eliza, me and ice as scums. So, will a w!leafia put her scum partners in scum lean if we believe Eliza is wolf?

yes but no

@Garfooled

Hmmmm… Good question. Atm I’m too zoned in on either Kiiruma or Eliza.
Icet/Eliza could be one.
Kiiruma/Lucifer could definitely be one too.
Kiiruma/Hazard had theatre.
Wiz and Leafia… I’ll have to look at again

I don’t understand Icet Eliza teams and Kiiruma Hazard team don’t seem as likely

@LuciferChaos

Hello! I know there are not many posts from me because this isn’t the main way I play social deduction, am in basically full time education and this is my first game here and I don’t know how to contribute

Please town flip for me I believe one day it’ll happen

@LuciferChaos

I can’t do a full list of reads because I don’t know half of you. It would all be senseless bullshit

dw I don’t half the people here either just make up bs and you’ll be alright

@WizKvothe

I can understand this feeling since this is my first game here as well and I’m overwhelmed by everyone here. It’s hard to give a full read on people because I don’t have anything meta about them but atleast you can throw a general sus and trust lean like I kinda trust kirumma and lemonfairy while I distrust Eliza, jake, Gorta and Lucifer.

I want to say relatable but my first ever forum mafia game was scum so I think I just played bad lol

@WizKvothe

Kiruma’s theory about Eliza being strongman sounds very compelling to me plus their general attitude seems townie. I would say the same for you- I can see the desire to solve the game in you which is townie.

I disagree with this. Kiiruma does NOT seem compelling nor have a townie attitude. It looks like to me they are stretching for any chance they can get because they are outed otherwise. They don’t seem genuine at all, the only reason I’m voting Eliza over them right now is through mechs. Kiiruma does not sound like the god I’ve heard about at all.

@WizKvothe

But I would also point if Eliza flips town then kiru is prolly wolf.

agreed

@WizKvothe

As for jake, I think I have mentioned my reasons for him to be a wolf before(just check my iso) and if he flips wolf chances are one of Luci and Gorta are wolves too (reasons also in my iso).

ngl I’m just going to ignore Jake and see how this game plays out

@WizKvothe

For icet, I feel he is null for me. I don’t remember properly but didn’t he put the leafia vote very late the last phase? That felt odd to me tbh(it’s possible I’m mixing him with someone else but I found it odd last phase). This also includes jake btw who put the vote late when they felt leafia was a lost case.

Icet is pretty townie to me and posted reasons in their logs it might be worth rereading them

@WizKvothe

Garfooled can flip anything tbh but I’m leaning a bit more to wolf side. I can see Alexa protecting garfooled by saying that she role blocked him because he was supposed to prevent the kill which did happen.

Not really. Mechs state Garfooled flips town 83% of the time and them being scum requires Eliza to be scum in almost every world so I’m not worried about this team comp at all also @ElizaThePsycho ALEXA LOL

@WizKvothe

For Hazzard, I’m null. I need to iso them properly to get a read on them.

I find this really strange Hazard is literally Luce 2.0 except they seem more townie