Let me look at snowe before I go to bed tonight, and I will try my best to appraise catbae’s posts tomorrow. I do believe both are wolves, but I will try my best to go into this with an open mind.
First off, let’s set the context. snowe has ostensibly randed a role where she gets more powerful the more she is suspected:
So the first 50! or so snowe posts are basically her just making funny posts and fluffposting:
She stops doing this when she posts the following and I vote her to give her the attention she desired.

okay so i may have had a certified Dumbass:tm: moment
namely that ive been intentionally trying to play to my noob wolf meta
and im just now coming around to the conclusion that that might be a Really Stupid Idea
From here, she starts playing conventionally for the second half of Day 1. Let me look at her posts from this stage.

im not up to date with jareks wolf metaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i do like the thought process shown in this post, its carries a lot of nuance from someone trying to legitimately solve a slot
but also idk how good jarek is at wolfing now
First off, I don’t like how she had to bookend this with “idk how good jarek is at wolfing now”. She’s giving herself an out to reverse her read with later if needed.

its okay ill do it for you
VOTE: memekingpizza
(more seriously i do think that i don’t love being self-conscious about votes on yourself like he was although i do admit it’s definitely not the most AI thing in the world. also i wanna stop selfvoting)
(i also wanna point out that im a little sus of catbae but only because his push on jarek who i now think is towny gave me flashbacks to how he acted in Worst Setup as a wolf—make a somewhat reasonable push on villas that havent gotten attention and try to ride it)
(did he actually do that in worst setup? idk my memory might be totally shot so)
Votes MKP with scant reasoning as to why they could be a wolf (they’re self conscious about votes on themself, but it’s not the /most/ AI thing in the world).

has your read on me changed, or do you just have a stronger wolfread on him?

was there any particular part or step of my thought process on catbae that you think was more likely to come from a villager, or did you mean it in a holistic sense?

understandable
i was hoping to get a flash of a towny spark from you from that read thought process but it was relatively rote (i.e. i dont think it’s ai for you to make that sort of read)
oh well, cest la vie

e.g. if you said something like “i liked the part where she remembered catbae’s push on jarek despite not mentioning it at all at the time” then i would have found that townie
…even if i think that that behavior would have been nai for me but like. you get the point, it’s not a rote thought process that rue would have years of practice making
This is where snowe does try to interrogate Rue about how she’s been treating her and to her credit this is what she meant earlier today by stating trying to “get her to do things i would see as a towntell and she hasn’t”. I do think that this attempt to read Rue - by asking her pointed questions to give her the opportunity for her to townread her - is townie.

this is a towny sort of self-reflection that i think comes from introspection and self-discovery that is really really hard to fake as a wolf
this read is fully hinged on the idea that jarek hasn’t said anything like this before consciously but given that premise, i do think this whole post is very towny
Moves the needle into fully townreading Jarek.

basically the whole of the reason why i voted memeking was this post
in retrospect i think all i can deduce from this is that during this time he was thinking a lot about being voted and was probably really anxious/sstressed about it
which is something that is ina vacuum lean wolf but absolutely heavily meta-dependent so i dont have any solid conclusions
so basically i agree with what catbae said above
She explains more about why she votes MKP here.

VOTE: o.kazo
i basically agree exactly with rue’s vote reasoning and i also feel like that MKP vote post was the only thing of substance i could latch onto in his iso
but yeah i dont understand the dissonance between—
god dammit altina sniped me so
whatever ill finish the post
i dont understand the dissonance between the things that say how strong the read is? is it a gut read? could it be nai? is it a solid read? how do those fit together? how can something gut be a nail in the coffin? how could something that’s a nail in the coffin be NAI? i just dont get it at all
Switches over to o.kazo once momentum starts building towards them (I think I voted them, then Altina, then her) once Rue posts her vote on O.kazo.

grasping at straws here for a possible wagon but
VOTE: hazardwaste
i am super out of touch with thread so if someone has a better read on him feel free to shoot me down but
i feel supper disconnected from and don’t get the thought process from this vote and besides that all i saw was nai damsel talkabout to leave so can neither dig nor elaborate further

made a post about this somewhere before but
i voted mkp cuz of a post he made that showed he was really anxious about pressure but someone pointed out that wasnt a good way to read him

i dont remember who
it mightve been nobody in particular and my memory is just awful but people were definitely talking about his meta somewhere in there

the rest will require backreading and review but i can answer this one right now with the stuff i’ve read
i wouldn’t particularly say im good at reading her, my needle hasnt really swung with the day 1 posts ive read–i tried to get her to do things i would see as a towntell and she hasn’t, so so far with the things ive readunrelated to those questions im super relaxed here and i dont actually think its ai, its that ive learned to care less about mafia for better or for worse over the years
i think my playstyle has shifted from tryhard to more of a troll gremlin, probably much to other peoples’ chagrin
Okay, this attempt at analyzing snowe’s posts is garbage because I’m so tired/sleepy, but if there is any world where snowe is just super disengaged town struggling to kind of latch onto the game thread or play, then it’s possibly within these posts.
The summary of snowe’s posting is:
- Fluffpost early D1 to garner wolfreads
- Post more conventionally D2 once called out on fluffposting
- Townreading Jarek for a couple of posts
- Votes MKP for them being self conscious about being voted
- Tries to get a handle on Rue
- Realizes that reasons for voting MKP aren’t as strong, moves to O.kazo instead
- Switches vote to T3M for self pres at EoD
- Has done very little D2 besides confirm their existing stance on Rue.
It’s difficult to gauge if snowe is a wolf or a townie with low WIM/motivation as only the second half of D1 they played “conventionally”. Their posts once starting to play conventionally were solid but I don’t see anything from snowe I would consider to be a strong town tell outside of her treatment of Rue.
I will try to look at this once again tomorrow to see if I can nail down something but it’s the lack of content which is the problem here.
It’s just like - for catbae and snowe, I’m being forced to ask myself the question with both of them, “are these players townies with low WIM/motivation, or are they just a wolf?” and I feel like if I’m asking that question too many times, Occam’s razor sometimes just dictates that they are a wolf.