Odyssey to the Fortress of Lunacy - Game Over - Conspirators Win!

Anyway I don’tthink anybody needs to intentionally blind themselves to useful information because maybe it contains lies. All posts in a mafia game Maybe Contain Lies. That’s the point. “Ignoring all mech” is wrong.

If you can’t read into mech without blindly trusting it, then maybe you’re better off ignoring it, but it’s certainly possible to get information from mechanics without blindly trusting them

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Imaginaryneon shot you iirc

I’m sure he remembers.

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I think mech will become clearer once people start flipping so it’ll become more importsnt later in the game

Treating this game in the beginning as a mountainous game is fine imo and what we should probably try to do but there also isn’t mech to go off of now so shrugs

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I think everyone has expressed this opinion so far, yes.

Damn ouch

What did i do to offend you :skull:

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Nothing, I just wanted to segue into more directly game related content, and I think you’ve lacked original reads so far.

Which, on that note:

VOTE: iamagummybear

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If I handed out my ability and I didnt claim it how were you going to solve the fake Town IC?

Ultimately, how is that any different from you faking a green check on someone?

Not blindly trusting an innochild reveal in a bastard game??? ??? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ??? ?? ?? I am literally not advocating for blindly trusting mech?? ?? ??? I said this very explicitly??? ?? ? ?? I’m just saying it should be considered ??? ?? ? ? ?

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Not particularly sure how to respond to this but okay lol

Don’t feel obligated to, I just figured I should clarify that I’m not actually upset at you in any sense.

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You would consider that it could be truthful or false. You would gauge the persons reaction and make a social read. This is social solving, what we do in normal games. What did mech solving do in this fictional scenario? Did you do any mech solving in this scenario? Is there another scenario that you could tell me about where mech consideration is a thing? As in, like, what would you do, and how it would help you. Doesnt have to be my ability

I’m saying “think about the mechanics, think about how they reflect on the players, consider it when you’re making reads”. Meowl handled the role reveal in a towny way. It didn’t feel like it consulted wolfchat on the matter. That’s a mechanical read. It’s not 100% reliable and shouldn’t be blindly trusted, but it takes mechanics into consideration.

If I give somebody a killing item and they don’t claim it and there’s an extra wolf kill that night, it’d be reasonable to wolfread them. That’s a mechanical read. It’s not 100% reliable and shouldn’t be blindly trusted, maybe the kill came from somewhere else and the item didn’t give through, but it takes mechanics into consideration.

If I got a redcheck on a player who’d fully claimed a role and they said “oh I was a miller and didn’t say BTW”, it’d be reasonable to wolfread them. That’s a mechanical read. It’s not 100% reliable and shouldn’t be blindly trusted, but any reasonable player while claiming their whole role would’ve also claimed they were a miller. It takes mechanics into consideration.

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This is a social read. You made the read off of meowls posts.

I typically hate/scumread activity excuses but ive had a 2 hour one way commute to work for the last couple of days so by the time i get home it is quite late

and im playing a discord maf game w carbonated and ash among others rn so my attention is divided

I have solely been posting on phone bc im too dead to get on my laptop which means i havent really been able to iso

I plan to work from home friday tho so ill have more time tmrw night to make reads

Mech informs social reads.
We can’t trust mech to straight-up give us the answers, but we can analyze how people respond to the purported mech.

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Specifically, gummy, I think you’ve made a lot of promises of content (quoted below) while your actual content posts are all either hedgy or restating things that have been already said.

Summary

eyes glossed over anything with more than 4 lines automatically

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the funniest thing is i will be at gummy’s workplace in her absence XD

okay lowk i’ve spent like 1% attention here and 99% attention in qbcord today, hopefully longer phase tmrw will let me talk more here

i’m laughing cuz this is the second time you’ve said this today

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