Odyssey to the Fortress of Lunacy - Day 4 (12/28)

Yeah Prophy is town. Stronger town. Great post.

My independent scumread on Wisp was that I feel like he would be more doomering as town here. He just had a town game on MU where he was super frustrated with losing. Wisp takes losses deeply, and has taken losses on FoL deeply. I suspect that if he randed town on FoL, after a frustrating MU loss, it would be shown from his demeanor. I think he’s suspiciously positive and cheerful.

I may doomer somewhere down the line, it ain’t happening 5 hours into day 1. Maybe less likely in a bastard game, because these setups are just built to break me, so looking at them any other way, will just tilt me

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I believe the main reason that town tends to do poorly on FoL is that a majority of players play for their ego instead of to win. This is why I took issue with tutuu’s post: read accuracy is only one measure of skill, and if players always focus on only that, wolves will consistently win.

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Why did you sign up if you don’t like bastard games?

I’m fine with that, yeah. Both of you are players who I wouldn’t ever execute early, so happy to just talk shop and bounce things around.

Really? Huh.

In my experience Wisp wins a lot regardless of what alignment he rands so it’s surprising to me to hear him take losses deeply. Normally I’m the type of guy who does that (less so now, I’m kind of adopting the Sunbae approach of mafia where win or lose if it was a good game nothing matters).

Also, I just lost an anon game, where I voted a wolf all of day 2, and died wolf reading a wolf, it happens. I don’t care if I lose, I care if I believe people aren’t playing to the best of their ability, and specifically making it harder for me to win. Sure FoL may have those moments, and it has its fair share of players that I hate that I feel like I need to run circles around their posts to find them, but I’m not going to dwell on that, and rather just do my thing

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This is nonsense. Everybody who is a FoL regular knows that the overwhelming majority of us do not play Mafia with a high ego.

This has nothing to do with town losing games on FoL. It is not an issue, nobody has been doing this, myself included.

The main reason FoL towns lose is due to slanking / lack of desire to try / play.

Huh, interesting. When I was playing two years ago, FoL towns were losing because of 1) hyperposting, and 2) being unable to work as a team.

This has changed?

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I believe the former has but not the latter.

Would you consider a game a success if you lost but had good reads?

No

Then why are you advocating for people to focus on their read accuracy instead of winning?

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Could use some improvement

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I need to listen to it again :sob:

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My nemesis is obviously too scared of me to even post. Cowardice.

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I will not stand for evil kings

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Anyways I’m not interested in this anymore
UNVOTE

I said that I am starting (now) to give up on being passionate here after disheartening experiences. My choices are to:

  1. Continue being passionate to win and be frustrated when losing (I dont want to be frustrated)
  2. Give up on FoL and migrate to MU like others (I dont wanna do that)
  3. Change my mindset on what I am expecting to get from games here

I said I’m picking option 3. You took that as me stating that I have bigger ego than others, and you made an assumption that everyone is like that, that’s why town is losing.

I feel like you are town, and you are trying to be insightful / helpful, but I think you are lacking a ton of nuance when you are parsing information. You are misunderstanding what I’m saying a lot.

I already started to get this feeling when you insisted that you will be able to read into bastard game mech. You are just wrong on so much. I’m leaving it at that.

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Because I like u guys, I wanted to play with proph, and then catbae also joined, someone else I love playing with, and that’s all I need.

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