Starcraft Overhaul FM - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)

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#7041

Let me think about this… Bean claimed the nightkill as a spur of the moment decision after I claimed my target. Jarek died, which would’ve needed to be planned in advance. I’m Town.

So it’s simple. I would’ve been killed as the only player able to interfere with the nightkills. Either me or Cape, since he’s confirmed Town. Bean wouldn’t have claimed that nightkill as Mafia unless they were planning to poorly frame Jaiden, and it was lucky I jailed Italy. “Lucky.”

So it’s just Italy, 99% of the time.

#7042

a very convincing argument

#7043

I play this game in first-person, looking outward.

#7044

then you should probably take your own advice to heart and convince other people instead of trying to convince yourself

#7045

Except I don’t think I need to. I’ve been more proactive in the thread than you’ve been, I read half the people D1 while you focused on two people, I fakeclaimed and realclaimed before I was executed, my results line up with the Watcher’s results, I probably stopped two nightkills in a row… and you claimed 1x Rolecop, checked the scummiest player alive and came back with a greencheck, which sure is lucky when most roles could belong to either alignment, and by your own admission have procrastinated solving the game. I’m just saying.

#7046

i checked my top scumread because that was the best use of my ability
not much complicated with that
and i’m standing right here looking down the entire wolfteam

#7047

I’m down!

VOTE: Italy

As I said.
CRichard and Marluna.
One of them is their partner but I’m not sure which.

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#7048

Pretty sure if Italy is a wolf it’s mechanically impossible for Marluna/CRichard to be T/T as it doesn’t make sense otherwise.

Why does Italy save a town and claim that to get them off from being a wagon?

As for Marluna if Italy is a wolf and actual Rolecop why doesn’t Italy just instantly kill Marluna if Marluna’s claim is real?

#7049

To me CRichard/Marluna are T/W in my eyes on a wolf flip here.

#7050

@Cape90
What’s your take on the Italy situation?

#7051

BTW I will fight people that accuse Magnus being a wolf.

Magnus ain’t a wolf, Neon spewed them town from their vote.

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#7052

I’m glad you consider me an exception.

#7053

Although 2 nights in a row still really makes me think mafia can store kills

#7054

@Magnus
What do you think?

Cause like.

I know I’m town.

I do think Italy could be wolf here.

But there is 2 missing night kills.
Where did they go?

#7055

Even if 1 is Italy and was roleblocked last night, what about night 3?

Night kills are also optimal so I suppose wolves could have purposely No killed to make me look bad cause you claimed Jailkeeper?

#7056

Night 2*

#7057

Kinda sucks though cause I really thought I was in the position to die last night

#7058

Figured if I Buss Drove the IC, I’d die.

#7059

What do you currently think about Bean’s shot on Jarek?

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#7060

I could probably think of a justification, although I haven’t really been thinking of Marluna as a wolf. Marluna’s flipped vote saved me and damned Neon EOD2, so since I’ve just categorised her as “not wolf”.
I might actually check which interactions they’ve had. I’ll keep your V/W read between CRichard and Marluna in mind, though, since I should keep an open mind, but CRichard’s giving off the red flags he did in Love is War and UFO. Although tbf, I haven’t seen v!CRichard yet, so it could just be his playstyle. In which case I’m not sorry for the last two games.

N1: Lemon died. If Mafia had a cannoneer, wouldn’t they save their kill instead of going for Lemon, specifically?
N2: Eliza died. Jarek claimed this shot, which we know to be true. I jailed you, Zorvo; nobody else could interfere with the nightkill. FYPOV, if you’re Town, that means you were attacked or Mafia no-killed. You would’ve been attacked for killing Neon, I’d imagine, since after that there was almost no shot you got executed.
N3: Jarek died. Bean claimed this shot. Assuming Bean is Town, Italy may have carried the kill, since I refuse to believe he was attacked instead of the obviously better targets.

So my answer is this: Bean > Zorvo > wherever. If Mafia could store kills… I don’t really think Lemon would’ve been killed there.