Starcraft Overhaul FM - GAME OVER (Mafia Victory)

If Italy gets killed and they’re town, it will confirm CRich.

Alright, so the plan to claim credit for the Jarek kill would be threefold:

A) Actually killing Jarek.
B) Me jailkeeping an unexpected Townie.
C) No other kills.

I was supposed to be jailing Jaiden, and she knew that. It would be hilarious to assume Jaiden would carry the kill in spite of that, or even get attacked. Mafia had no way of assuming I was jailkeeping someone else.

Killing Jarek needed to be decided in the night, whilst I was supposedly jailing Jaiden. You could see why a wolf would want to remove an even-night vigi from the game, except for the fact that I CAN INTERFERE WITH THE NIGHT KILL, and Cape is mechanically confirmed Town. Jarek was talking about shooting Bean, that needs to be kept into account; however, through that lens, killing Jarek would’ve specifically set Bean up as today’s execution unless it was claimed as a vigi shot, which suggests it needed to be planned in advance. Which is a problem, since I was jailing someone out of the way.

Of course, if Bean’s Mafia it’s common sense to assume there would be no other nightkills. But it’s still a weird chain of coincidence and I don’t trust it.

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It would confirm CRichard’s role, correct.
And his role is proportionally more likely Town than not.

none
i can account for it completely

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It means CRich is town and no more doubt is to be had.

:fireworks:

people dont just not kill
well. people do
but trying to convince a team of people to not kill
it doesnt happen

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Intriguing answer. I’m a fan of worldbuilding, so I’d hear what you’ve got.

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False.
There is still two other ways, that the nightkill could be prevented.

Which statement is immeadiatly crumbled, when we assume, that both of you are mafia.

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  1. Mafia no-killing. Improbable scenario.
  2. Cape claimed 1-Shot. Impossible unless that was a lie, which would be fair.
  3. Mafia attacking you. Improbable scenario since your claim was known.

Correct, I could’ve hypothetically set it up with Bean in wolfchat. Which raises the question of where the nightkill went N2, and just social stuff in general. Did you really meant “assume”, or “look at this case through that lens”?

There are 5 protection claims.
And there are 2 hard to kill role. (a commuter and a hollow man)
I am with Italy on this one. This is just too much on the protection side.

My case is that CRichard’s wolf alongside Italy, since that resolves one of the protectives and it makes sense socially.

An even slank doctor, which was heavily softed through D1, with restrictions-heavy roles, supported by an investigation role.

Or

An unlimited jailkeeper, which turned from a semi-priest claim, and even didn’t know how their ability functioned. (Courtesy of Jaiden’s revelations.) And supports a vigi claim, which was never claimed, even after the mafia roleblocker died.

Hmm…
I wonder which pairing sounds more fake.

My n1 visit was backed by Jaiden’s info, and my n3 visit backed by Italy’s feedback. Which confirms me as a roleblocker, and a Mafia roleblocker already flipped. There’s no other good reason for a no-kill n2 than my role, imo. I feel like I should be mechclear at this point.

Yes and No.
Mafia Slank Doctor is a thing.

Agreed.
That’s why I don’t trust CRichard being town here.

Could it be both CRichard AND Marluna with Italy?

Not saying this to discredit you or anything, I still think your always town here.
But Mafia could have a backup and have gotten Neon’s role.

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The question is.
Did Italy fake claim the Rolecop or is Italy an actual mafia Rolecop?

And can both make sense for CRichard being the wolf with them?

Hmm actually I just thought of something if Italy flips Rolecop.

Mafia Gravekeeper (uses a dead players ability)
(Could be Loyal)

Then the next one could be Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante if Bean, Mafia Slank Doctor if CRichard or it could be a different Mafia Role that we have.

Balance wise I can see these roles being the case.