The beatings will continue until townplay improves: Part 1 - The Cheesening - Signups - 11/11

…Millium, look at who reviewed this setup.

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i like this

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IIRC:
9v2 is ~35% town winrate with random eliminations
12v3 is… something like 25%? might’ve been 24.8 but that could be wrong

sidenote that 40% town winrate in-practice feels ~good IMO and I’d probably shoot for that when making a vanilla setup, but I suppose yeah its wolfsided strictly speaking

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i cant read

…I feel like whatever I say will just end up with animosity one way or another, so I’ll just shut up my mouth and let you do as you please.

found the numbers
was a bit off

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12/3 vanilla, I think is above rand wolf sided, based off no data but my opinion, which i like

what, I was making a joke, sorry if it offended u, cant honestly tell from ur responses

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ohh that percentage was win rate for town, ya checks out

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FoL needs a morale boost for towning. I personally wouldn’t run or play something that I expect to go below 45% town winrate, at least not right now

mountainous with 4 wolves is supposed to be 15v4 (not that i’ve seen one ran in practice)

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as much as i want to play with u again because u are a wonderful player, i need to stay as a sub for now

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aww, i would have loved to play with you again! hopefully soon in the near future

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yeah personal preferences differ

I like slightly wolfsided games, because town getting crushed doesn’t generally impact whether I enjoy the game as town, but on the other hand I don’t enjoy wolfing if the wolfteam’s losing badly

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen 13v4 mountainous run (and not 15v4) so I was under the impression it was the standard 4-wolf mountainous playercount
could be wrong tho

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see but if we lose as town in a town-sided game our morale will die even more

i think fol should make only mafsided setups so whenever i lose as town i can just blame the game and not have to introspect into the idea that i may just actually suck as town

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thtbhtbthbthtb sometimes I kinda want town to do badly because it’d result in a fun endgame (though obviously that doesn’t mean I’m trying to cause a misexe, to be clear)
for example in TADC where I was hoping Bystander would flip town and I’d get to play an F5 LYLO

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ive never seen either 13v4 nor 15v4, 13v4 just breaks the convention

9v2 → 12v3 (you add 3 villagers and 1 wolf)

the amount of mischops mafia needs is equal the amount of wolves + 2 (in mountainous)

in non-mountainous games, that number is instead wolves + 1 (10v3, 13v4 games)

you could in theory run 13v4 mountainous, nothing stoppping you from running anything, there is utility in making it not take forever, but yeah its just a purposefully mega scumsided setup (that breaks the convention of the previous two smh)

Cheese is the best flavor btw argue with the wall

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Various fundamentals such as sheet game, eat nightkill and die.

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13v4 mountainous:
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/49437-Prince-J-Birthday-Bash

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