There's No Freaking Way I'll Be Your Mason! Unless... -- Day 1 (14/14)

I think you and dia and hippo raise decent points for alexis town. they’re a little similar for why you were townread d1 in undertale (essentially sum to “too high effort”) for me to really feel the townread, but I will agree it’s probably fine and only something to revisit later on in the game

I am reluctantly townreading jason, and I forgot why but I remember having the thought earlier, so there was probably a reason. it’s not strong but I guess I’d townread jason over like hippo who is someone with townreads on him.

I think I said a lot of my vibe on players earlier

you are warming up because I like when you post things that don’t ping me, and you’re doing that more now

dia is. so far okay. also maybe above hippo. I will try to remain untunneled and unpocketed, but easier said than town

I have mentioned hippo a lot. kinda using him as a measuring stick bc I feel like he is townread or something. I guess he was scumreading me, and that’s probably a good thing given he townread me last game when he was mafia. hm (sorry I’m really sleepy)

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ash where are you

feed me your reads

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Some serious damage control. Cannot stress this enough: everything from Shending so far is nai if not actually towny!!! i KNOW he posts like a redditor but my god i just spent a literal week being paranoid and scumreading him bc of just the same things u all r reacting to rn. Turns out he rly just writes like that. Might seem performative but he’s just engaged and i was just lucky last time to have others from our community who knew his writing style better. May would confirm if she could. Also he’s way too experienced for the expectation-managent stuff, if that makes sense. Like if it were not genuine and nai for him he wouldn’t as a cheating lesbian write about his coming absence in the first place.
Hanging him would be a serious waste as he will be a great asset if town.

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For what it’s worth, I think we’re making a distinctly different read than “too high effort”?
It’s specifically that they’re being really blunt about their reads, almost to the point of being antagonistic. From experience, mafia actively avoids doing stuff like this because you don’t want people to be biased against you because that’ll destroy you down the line.
So either they’ve been incredibly self-destructive to their win condition and would lose Fx if it comes down to it, or they’re just town, and I’m inclined to believe the latter, especially since it matches my over-aggressive play from when I started playing mafia.

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Slightly stupid question, but do you mean Alexis?
I don’t feel like Shending’s writing like a Redditor, but this may just be a me thing.

did dia not do this in frieren initially

I remember being tunneled on them d1 for like claiming or something

damn did you really do a full dia meta dive in the last 6 hours or something

I have no strong feelings on whether this is accurate or not, but it sounds smart and cool, so maybe the conclusion is sound

(jason help dia meta)

man it’s nice to play with you again ash even if I’m probably spewing nonsense at you right now

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thank you you are right abt the nuance although I may have to reread later to convince myself

shending and barwe apparently are from the same mafia community

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I think alexis is the one no one has played a game w before?

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lol no actually meant Shending but was just about to say holy shit i will never call him a redditor again after reading all this

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thank you & will keep in mind

can I ask if you have a sense of his meta? and if you think his meta on you earlier was accurate (largely that you are contrarian when town and more consensus when wolf I think)?

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goodnight my bedtime was three hours ago see you tomorrow when I make unwise choices

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I spent the last 4 hours doing pieces of it and then getting distracted by something else, and then coming back to it, and then getting distracted by the Steel Ball Run anime adaptation (did you know that Netflix only released the first episode and that David Productions has no idea when they’re gonna be able to release further episodes of it), and rinse and repeat.
Might be cooked.

They did but locked in after a couple of hours, though that was likely a function of the playerbase for that game being really active.
There’s a good argument for, “This is how that t!Dia would play in a game with this level of activity,” but there’s not enough data for a contrast, hence me asking them about meta.

:heart:

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this is the funniest thing ive ever read in forum
Alexis i luv u and absolutely cannot believe u r wolf. Way too antagonistic for it to make sense but rly i just want to keep u as a character in the game

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I should actually answer this.

Alexis and Jason read as Town to me. Regarding Jason, there are probably good parallels you can draw between this game and Grande Idea, but that feels excessive for a D1 read.

Ishmael lock town for the number of people who’ve asked if the ride-or-die is real (this is half a joke; will probably read Project Moon/Beatings II at some point).

Currently leaning Town on Dia. I imagine the self-meta thing won’t change this, but it’d be a good thing to have as an anchor going forward.

Leaning Town on Shending. This one is just vibes: specifically, #126 and #147 read as towny to me.

Neutral on Hippo. I think they had the opportunity to undermine Alexis, and so them choosing not to take it is a point in their favor, but I want to reread Odyssey before giving them an outright Town Lean.

I’ve spoken about Chomps before (#276).

Weirdly, I think I’ve been side-eyeing you a bit? Which I recognize is a bit mean to drop right after you spoke about enjoying playing with me after so long, and it’s decently colored from building outwards from t!me, but I also feel like you’ve vaguely been rather floaty this game. You didn’t seem too invested in your scumreads on me or Hippo, and I disagree with Jason’s argument that you wouldn’t accept a pocket as mafia (in my head, you’d just be posting “JASON I’M SORRY” in mafia chat). But I also know that this is a playstyle thing, so I’m probably gonna have to just backread your FoL games tomorrow and piece things out from there.

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@Barwe, what’re your thoughts on non-Shending/Alexis slots?

alright locking in

barwe v

ash v still i trust my white boy soul read

meow v

idc shoot shendigs ten times out of ten

alexis ehhhhhhh i’ll judge them(?) on how their(?) pushes flip, if they’re(?) flipping towns with it hang hang hang hang hang hang i want them(?) as a wind chime

hippo locking in as v

willow is willow posting i’ll just pray she catches a night kill

chomps fuck you chomps i hate reading you (i love you)

dia v

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Can you run me through this one?

idc about their meta fucking shoot them

every single post from them pings super super super weird and off kilter to me

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me @ shendigs

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