yeah I agree with everything in this post except the conclusion obviously. do you have a preferred vote today?
Chomps (1): Barwe
iamagummybear (1): Frostwolf103
Barwe (1): Chomps
Hippopablompoyeetus (1): Shending
Not Voting (6): Hippopablompoyeetus, iamagummybear, snow, Ash, meow, jason.mrrown
What is the probability of shending pocketing barwe? 🫠
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Jason probably
But idk why everyone keeps expecting me to kinda lead things. It feels like thread wants me to essentially gladiate someone and then they choose between me and them but that feels antitown. Yesterday i didnt high post that much but also felt everyone was nudging into my push on ishmael as a gladiate.
You kind of need to lead from the top its hard to give good reads when half of your energy is defending yourself
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Are there specific posts that give you that sense?
Chomps iso
Interaction with Alexis
the omgus crossvote is what i’d expect chomps to do here
idk if this is alignment indicative but if it is it’s really easy to change up so not going to count this
i’m like flipflopping back and forth about what this shows.
The parts that are like “cmon explain your reads” and “i could just call you wolf, but im not” are really appeasing in a way that makes sense if alexis literally caught w!chomps and w!willow off openers, and alexis is giving them very little reason to engage and push back against so asking for reads is something w!chomps could be doing to have more to grapple with.
However there are also positive things from chomps here. Their insistence that alexis isn’t “playing the right way” is reminiscient of this post from beatings 1, where chomps was town
additionally, i really liked the line “i don’t like how you’re going about the game.” I think there’s a lot of towny entitlement in these posts.
I think overall these interactions actually look really good for chomps. I guess I can chalk up the appeasing nature of the earlier posts to chomps being cowed by alexis’s early hyperaggressiveness and not wanting to omgus like they usually would. I also really like the progression of appeasement to combativeness. He defends himself a little, but most of his focus is on alexis and alexis’s reads.
later chomps explains his process as this, which is a towny approach.
tldr chomps’s focus on alexis’s reads when alexis was pushing him early + sprinkling in towny entitlement is good
Posts about Frost
I do think it’s kinda interesting that these two are the only reads chomps bothers to make. It’s like basically putting in minimal effort. I feel like this is more likely to come from t!chomps than w!chomps, since w!chomps would make more reads and try to present a more comprehensive worldview to look towny, but this is also an easy meta to subvert so im not gonna put much stock into it
i was kinda worried that frost being chomps’s only wolfread could be him forcing a wolfread to look good, like willow with snow, but i think the read is genuine as you’ll see from the next two posts.
i like this post bc it’s just a simple read, nothing more. it’s not justified and overexplained in the way that wolves pushing agenda like to word their posts.
this read might be wrong but the underlined makes me feel like chomps is remembering a past w!frost game where frost did this, which i think feels genuine
More towny entitlement
chomps forgetting he was wolfreading frost is so funny to me. I find it much more believable that t!chomps disconnected from the game and simply forgot who he was pushing than w!chomps doing this, i think w!chomps would care more about maintaining consistency in their pushes to look towny.
tldr chomp’s wolfread on frost feels very genuine and real
chomps’s responses to ash about his reasoning to wolfread frost today also feel good and lined up with their previous posts
i think chomps is just town
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What I get from Chomps is vibes trust bro. The reason I am not tunneling back since last vote because he feels the same as Frieren, it is NAI.
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I’m confident enough that chomps is out of wolfrange that i’m seriously considering hardshielding chomps today, but i might be missing smth obvious
@Barwe @Ash @meow @Hippopablompoyeetus can you give me thoughts on this
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Re-reading his ISO in Kakegurui, and I think I would second this.
I am in this game too, do I have to?
“This game” meaning No Freaking Way or Kakegurui?
Sorry, kakegurui
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I can throw together a quick summary of the posts that stand out to me as being markedly different, but I also think you could skim the ISO and immediately see a difference.
Fwiw chomps did say in april showers that kakegurui was a higher effort wolf game
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/55734 this game might be a better reference for w!chomps’s effort level?
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Towning Barwe for Swedish wallpost and never attempting to reevaluate his slot since
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I am not using MU.
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Lmao i’m back to t!hippo. What kind of wolf goes “i might be washed don’t listen to my reads?”
If anything, w!hippo has the perfect opportunity to ate a bit, say “last game i tried to push a wolf but no one listened to me, guys please listen to me this game,” and vote out a villager
Here’s an instance of w!hippo doing this in odyssey
I think hippo not going for lhf atm is also mildly towny
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Down to shending / barwe / meow / gummy / frost as my poe
Surely there has to be a wolf in shending / barwe / meow
I’ll respect ish’s early read and look into shending/alexis interaction when i get the chance
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m you’re right & sorry about putting you in that position. I should be doing more myself, I’m just not good at leading (as either alignment)
I probably just sheep you