There's No Freaking Way I'll Be Your Mason! Unless... -- Night 2 (11/14)

[diafiasco]

not sure how it was assumed that i have a horse in this race but right on

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

the only thing i know about the swedish national team is that they’re managed by graham potter and all i think is that video of that chelsea fan crashing out over him

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

italy is level with bosnia rn LOLOLOLOL

[Shending]

This was the first game i watched of us since the last world cup, but i gotta brag when given the chance don’t I

[Shending]

My to do before EoD:

-finish my Willow iso (and especially figure out if i wanna clear Snow from it)
-iso jason to confirm if I’m as lock V there as i was yesterday, and if yes demolish that wagon to the ground
-Iso whatever i have time for between Hippo/chomps/frost/meow

[Shending]

(this is mostly for myself if i forget overnight, me tired)

[snow]

@meow

I’m confused by your wording of “probably helped me resolve it” since dia didn’t get voted out

By “resolve it” I meant the case I had on dia (that one post). And by “probably” I meant I’m not sure if dia would’ve addressed it had I not voted them.

@meow

also, what do you think about dia now?

I’m town-leaning dia now. I could explain it better if needed, but tldr I think it’s unreasonable to bus willow for so long

@meow

am I just being illiterate and you’re basically saying you thought dia was wolfier than willow and/or a more interesting vote?

I simply had a case on dia. It wasn’t about whether I thought dia was a good d1 vote or not. I typically decide my final d1 vote at the last hour before eod, and if at that time I thought dia is a better vote than willow/anybody else, I would push it

[Shending]

Oh also, if someone has made a case on Jason W as to explain why he’s a wagon, feel free to @ me with it

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Dont iso me

[Shending]

You just jumped to the top of the list

Tough luck

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Dont sheep me for rest of game

[Shending]

I’m 'ing you for the rest of the game

Tough lu…wait

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

[meow]

@snow

And by “probably” I meant I’m not sure if dia would’ve addressed it had I not voted them

ohhh I think this is the root of my confusion, thank you

[meow]

snow I think you’re townread by the game except me, hippo, and dia

what are your thoughts on us/the push on you? do you think one (or more?) of us is a wolf? do you think a wolf would choose to jump on the push on you? would maybe understand if you’re sus of me right now as well

I know you’ve said you’re townreading dia, so that would leave me and hippo I think

do you think I’m making a bad faith argument/making a bad assumption somewhere? (or maybe this is hard bc I haven’t really written out a consolidated case or anything)

do you think you should be being townread right now/why do you think you should be?

thoughts on the current wagons? do you think we’re town-clearing anyone too easily?

this post might sound a little aggressive; that’s not my intention, but I’m not sure how to articulate my questions and get my point across in a nicer manner & so I gave up and decided to be direct

I don’t have any “right” answers I’m expecting, I’m just trying to understand where you are right now

[iamagummybear]

guys imma be townreader cause im based and unbiased

[iamagummybear]

okay i meant to say townleader but i suppose that’s applicable too

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

All of Jason's Soft Defenses of Willow

@jason.mrrown

not really a soft defense, but yeah i’m not really sure what continuing to wagon willow will do to advance the game. I know you’re a fan of factoring in information when deciding who to wagon, and if willow isn’t going to commit to giving d1 reads, then idk what info we gain from that

@jason.mrrown

Can you explain how this translates to willow being a wolf

@jason.mrrown

I don’t think she’s towny, i think the wagon is stale

@jason.mrrown

I think it’s p likely one of [alexis/youbie, ish, dia] is a wolf

If alexis is a wolf making an early powerwolf play to establish thread control, i think wolves would be more self-conscious of joining the wagon since it was started by a wolf

If alexis is town, I think it’s easy for wolves to just follow his push and jump on bc of how strong it was. If shending is a wolf they get cred, if shending is town most of the blame falls on alexis and not them.

@jason.mrrown

I’ll reread willow i thought her putting effort into isoing d1 and coming up with thoughts was a good look but idt i’ve really thought about what she said

@jason.mrrown

i read through both snow’s points and willow’s points, and i can see the perspective for both i think?

snow saying they’re fine just going for a lhf slot is just another version of you saying “im fine with these slots dying today”

willow is saying that snow lacks the progression where they evaluate the game and decide who is fine and who is not fine

and tbh i like willow’s perspective here more

…
and i just saw willow claim bodyguard and ash cc so wtf

[Included him reacting to the Ash CC so you can’t claim im taking out of context]

The way he handled Willow day one is extremely suspect, it’s all light defense and redirecting votes away from the now flipped wolf. I do not think a town member makes defenses in the way Jason did of a at the time unflipped wolf.

VOTE: Jason

Will dig into more Jason stuff later but this is just a preview

something something surgical summer pusha t reference something something

[Aleph (Ishmael)]

@jason.mrrown

i’m… mildly surprised i’m not getting pushed harder? i thought someone would have come up with a case on how willow and I are paired

lol this reads like a poltician leaking their scandal to friendly media sources so they get ahead of it

you ain’t slick big boy

(this stuck out like a sorethumb im still combing)

[jason.mrrown]

I think i’m missing something