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#773

There are generally no advantages to ensuring an actual vote draw at the end of the day, as the primary con is that you’re taking the culmination of 48 hour discussion and flipping a coin to resolve it. Even if town doesn’t really mind who dies between two suspects, competitive wagons can illustrate who is voting where, you can analyse why they’d want certain players dead over others, you can identify gaps in logic or associations that way. Pursuing ties as a group activity just renders all that obsolete in lieu of a basic numbers game.

Unless there’s a role-related purpose to drawing the votes, there really isn’t much of a benefit.

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#774

It is strictly worse to have a tie because evils are more incetivised to have a tie, since it reduces the chance they die if they’re otherwise the top wagon. As a result town should always take control and be more decisive consolidating close to EoD and only moving off it as a unit if there’s good reason to do so (Such as an innocent child revealing or someone doing something very town AI when they’re being wagoned or very mafia AI when they’re not)

#775

VOTE: Gorta

Abigail is more “frustrating” than “wolfy” to me and I don’t really wolfread Jarek

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#776

I agree with what you’re saying.
And the most suspicious thing I find about Gorta is their insistence of just saying about flavour rather than solving.
I’d like to know your own reasons why you’re voting for em though.

#777

I want to vote for somebody people are already voting for at this stage in the game

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#778

Mmm Gorta might not show green flags but also no red flags for me. I don’t think the lore thing is that bad. Maybe it’s actually an unwise vote

#779

VOTE: Childe I want to see gameplay

#780

So you didn’t have a particular townread/scumread on Gorta and instead you decided to join me on the vote for the lowposter but as a sort of pressure thing? Interesting.

#781

I can see you beginning to wolfread me. Stop it. I’m the towny

#782

Correction: Gorta said he would focus on the flavour for his own enjoyment and really only contribute later in the game, and then what he did was address Abigail’s opening entrance with implied self-satisfaction. He’s the top poster, even.

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#783

Wolves like to do what they say they’re gonna do. If they see an excuse to not contribute they like to not contribute

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#784

I’ve purposefully exploited people’s assumptions around this to get easily townread by saying “I’m really busy I have to not post” and then posting but IDK that other people do that

#785

Fair enough, I can recognise that you’re saying the truth but I do still find it weird that Gorta themselves was saying they’d focus on flavour moreso. Especially since contributing/solving later on is strictly worse since then conversions will muddy the waters a ton

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#786

There’s scenarios where Gorta just saw an opportunity to push agenda on a wolfy town though. And did it. Because pushing agenda is a plus. But I feel like most wolves see that and go “well I said I’d only think about flavour and I don’t wanna be a liar”

#787

I think I didn’t mind the anonymous conversion game so much but I dislike this nonymous conversion game because I feel like it’s gonna be based on reputation more than action

#788

Connections
Puzzle #279
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:

I tried to do them in reverse order but the colours of the categories were so weird

#789

I don’t like the people discussing the conversion mechanics at this point in time. Feels like at least one of them is a wolf blending in there. It doesn’t get us anywhere to talk about it and the way some of them are talking about it almost feels like they know more than they’re letting on and are like “oh yeah town wouldn’t know about that”

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#790

Am I one of them :pleading:

#791

Not particularly

#792

Nyaaaaa no fair