Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Luka]

@Jarek

Because I think I’m right and that’s more entertaining than being a sheep and conforming. That is something that is true of me every game and for someone calling out how I act in previous games it’s strange that you haven’t noticed that

I don’t really remember much of your prior games, other than in both of them you were near MVP status. That aside, in LFOL I know for a fact you did not do this, which is the main game I’m using as a mental reference.

[Jarek]

@Luka

I don’t really remember much of your prior games, other than in both of them you were near MVP status. That aside, in LFOL I know for a fact you did not do this, which is the main game I’m using as a mental reference.

I have my moments but as a general rule of thumb I dislike following what other people do because I believe if I’m unable to generate my own thoughts I’m not really any use to anyone. Even if I am wrong it’s better than just believing what someone else said just because they sounded convincing.

As an example off the top of my head there was a game with anonymous characters in a TOL setting, I was a guy named Tanaka and I think for most of that game I kinda tried to be the person that was being followed (the anonimity helped because people might think I was someone better than just me) rather than just nodding along.

The compliment is nice though

[Jarek]

@Luka

I’m ISOing Jarek’s D1 and they haven’t made a single read? Like, IDK what you’re doing this game.

Me neither truest sentence anyone ever said about me

Jokes aside I can’t help but notice you’ve been suspecting me this entire time but I think I like it. It’s consistent at least. I don’t think wolves are consistent.

[Gorta]

I’m going to sleep, but I’ll be on in the morning

[Gorta]

I’m thinking it’s probably best to just iso people and try to form opinions that aren’t something I’ve observed from reading the thread in real time

[Jarek]

@Luka

I want your thoughts on Kiiruma.

Bit contradictory at the start. Claims they like conversion and playing for evil:

@Kiiruma

Probably because your experience with me + conversion is me being strictly anti-town from the get-go (In the case there’s a mez in game) or hiding being pit-hagged/jumped.

but are happy to claim that they like their role and will be leading town? Personally, it’s weird but the whole vibe is that they’re excited to be playing against a conversion mechanic and you know, I can vibe with that. The key word is Against.

They’ve got a thing against childe too which peeeeeeeersonally just feels like low hanging fruit and not a likely convert either for the same reason. It is true they’re kinda not too active for my tastes right now but they’re also not the #1 lets kill them right now target you know? Like, I’m bad at pointing shit out but I’m sure there’s a better kill than someone whose just “there”.

For the most part the energy they had D1 has stayed into D2, which again, consistency! consistency GOOD.

Feels town. Am I wrong? Idunno

[Jarek]

You know that being said I’m kinda having a hard time picking a name I don’t like. But in my experience the “why not” kills are the least informative or interesting one way or another.

Don’t think I’d want kiiruma dead though, not yet.

[Jarek]

VOTE: Hazardwaste

Role card stuff bothers me a bit. Couuuuuuuuld have something to do with conversion? Like they’re slowly turning into a vamp or whatever and they’re still town for now ah fuck that sounds dumb as hell scratch that

either way aside from that, gonna need some reads from yah cuz this iso looks a bit barren aside from reacting to what other people do

[Luka]

I’m going to sleep, I’ll think on this tmr.

[Host_Account_1]

Kiiruma (4): Leafia, Bionic, May, Someone
Childe (1): Zone_Q11
Magnus (1): IcetFeelsPain
Leafia (1): Kiiruma
Jarek (1): Luka
HazardWaste (1): Jarek

Not Voting (4): Childe, HazardWaste, Magnus, Gorta

Official vote count of Day 2

[Hazardwaste]

I mean day 1 i am not gonna be useful in at all.
And i have been at work all day so i can understand being barren but i mean i have made solo reads on players so i dont think its completely barren…

And like if i was slowly turning evil i dont think turning me into another good character is a good way to start it.

[Hazardwaste]

Like i dont know what to tell you here

[Zone_Q11]

@Jarek

accidentally TMI’d by using leaps in logic to solve their problem faster.

Dafuq? Explain.

[Zone_Q11]

Okay, fine. Sure. Let’s assume Icet is town.
That means that there’s a [Town/Mafia] Arsonist on the loose who wants me dead. (Most likely the latter because why would a Town douse me?)

Without any way to resist the possibility of dying N2, what do you want me to do other than the good ol’ traditional scumhunting (which I’m not very good at)?

[Zone_Q11]

@Jarek

Arsonists are usually 3P I understand that but the immediate conclusion that it was a 3P with absolutely no discussion or thinking on the matter is a logical leap that’s hard to believe even if it does make sense gamewise.

Wut? Hang on, lemme get my chronology.

@Zone_Q11

I was either visited by a flavored fruit vendor,
or the OP lied about this game having no Neuts.

I first thought of Fruit Vendor or an Arso.

@Zone_Q11

Okay. I don’t think you’d lie about that (because why would you even admit it if you were), so unless one of the bastard aspect is “your role actually being something else than what you see”, then it’s probably not you.

Then I trust Icet for the same reasons you did.

@Zone_Q11

Mother–
SO IT WAS ICET AFTER ALL!

VOTE: Icet

Then I found out that “we may be seeing fake roles”. So I impulsively tunneled Icet. (Which, I admit was a mistake.)

I mean, I did think of Mafia Arsonist after P#1377 and P#1549, but before that the stereotypical Arsonist is always a Neutral.

I mean, have you ever seen a “Town Godfather” or a “Mafia Miller”?

[Magnus]

@Zone_Q11

I mean, have you ever seen a “Town Godfather” or a “Mafia Miller”?

I’ve seen both, generally as just titles for creatively engineered rolemadness abilities. But those are far less common.

[Zone_Q11]

I wanted everyone to tell me whether they visited me or not, but when I saw that Hazard has a “true role” my mind went straight to “Icet has that too, and he is the cause of the douse!”

(To be honest, I didn’t think much of his alignment, and I’m pretty sure I just wanted him dead.)

Afterwards I realized that me revealing I was doused locked Icet in as the only one who will claim to visit me, because nobody else would be able to claim to have visited me anymore.

So uh, yeah. I dug my own grave, and I think I’m dying for it. I don’t think I’ll survive tonight if I survive today. My legacy has been transferred to Luka though, so if I die: He should know what to do.

[Zone_Q11]

@Luka

mafia hypnotist

I didn’t think of that…

[Zone_Q11]

Okay, I caught up and it seems that Jarek and I have both agreed on one thing: I won’t live long.

Not sure where to go from here on out, but I do… not see Wazza. On the VC.

[Magnus]

The hosts have been informed.