Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Zone_Q11]

@Jarek

accidentally TMI’d by using leaps in logic to solve their problem faster.

Dafuq? Explain.

[Zone_Q11]

Okay, fine. Sure. Let’s assume Icet is town.
That means that there’s a [Town/Mafia] Arsonist on the loose who wants me dead. (Most likely the latter because why would a Town douse me?)

Without any way to resist the possibility of dying N2, what do you want me to do other than the good ol’ traditional scumhunting (which I’m not very good at)?

[Zone_Q11]

@Jarek

Arsonists are usually 3P I understand that but the immediate conclusion that it was a 3P with absolutely no discussion or thinking on the matter is a logical leap that’s hard to believe even if it does make sense gamewise.

Wut? Hang on, lemme get my chronology.

@Zone_Q11

I was either visited by a flavored fruit vendor,
or the OP lied about this game having no Neuts.

I first thought of Fruit Vendor or an Arso.

@Zone_Q11

Okay. I don’t think you’d lie about that (because why would you even admit it if you were), so unless one of the bastard aspect is “your role actually being something else than what you see”, then it’s probably not you.

Then I trust Icet for the same reasons you did.

@Zone_Q11

Mother–
SO IT WAS ICET AFTER ALL!

VOTE: Icet

Then I found out that “we may be seeing fake roles”. So I impulsively tunneled Icet. (Which, I admit was a mistake.)

I mean, I did think of Mafia Arsonist after P#1377 and P#1549, but before that the stereotypical Arsonist is always a Neutral.

I mean, have you ever seen a “Town Godfather” or a “Mafia Miller”?

[Magnus]

@Zone_Q11

I mean, have you ever seen a “Town Godfather” or a “Mafia Miller”?

I’ve seen both, generally as just titles for creatively engineered rolemadness abilities. But those are far less common.

[Zone_Q11]

I wanted everyone to tell me whether they visited me or not, but when I saw that Hazard has a “true role” my mind went straight to “Icet has that too, and he is the cause of the douse!”

(To be honest, I didn’t think much of his alignment, and I’m pretty sure I just wanted him dead.)

Afterwards I realized that me revealing I was doused locked Icet in as the only one who will claim to visit me, because nobody else would be able to claim to have visited me anymore.

So uh, yeah. I dug my own grave, and I think I’m dying for it. I don’t think I’ll survive tonight if I survive today. My legacy has been transferred to Luka though, so if I die: He should know what to do.

[Zone_Q11]

@Luka

mafia hypnotist

I didn’t think of that…

[Zone_Q11]

Okay, I caught up and it seems that Jarek and I have both agreed on one thing: I won’t live long.

Not sure where to go from here on out, but I do… not see Wazza. On the VC.

[Magnus]

The hosts have been informed.

[Host_Account_1]

Kiiruma (4): Leafia, Bionic, May, Someone
Childe (1): Zone_Q11
Magnus (1): IcetFeelsPain
Leafia (1): Kiiruma
Jarek (1): Luka
HazardWaste (1): Jarek

Not Voting (5): Childe, HazardWaste, Magnus, Gorta, Wazza

I apologize for being caught for not being diligent, hopefully this fixes the problem, otherwise I have to reset the votecount. - Frost

[Zone_Q11]

It’s fixed.

[Bionic]

[childe]

[Kiiruma]

Huh, I wonder why the thread is so dead.
Maybe the mafia’s just really happy with how the wagons currently are?

[IcetFeelsPain]

Fair

I was just wondering what the thread thinks

[May]

VOTE: Jarek

[Jarek]

I don’t know, probably a fools errand to keep thinking about it either way at this point

[Jarek]

Well true but I have to vote someone, and I’ll be honest it’s getting to the point where I don’t know where to look or what to do. Not really a fun place to be in right now I’ll tell you what but that’s just how it is

I’m just trying to do things so maybe something clicks again and I have an epiphany on who I don’t like

[Wazza]

@Luka

Why?

I don’t like saying my reads early on, more often than not they’re wrong and usually just comes back to bite me so I just don’t like doing it.

Plus getting killed N1 or converted in this case is not thrilling gameplay.

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@Luka

What about today? Also, why didn’t you push this?

@Wazza

I don’t scumread you

@Luka

Meh, this feels a bit weak. Ironically accusing Gorta of hedging while hedging yourself on a read w/ them.

@Luka

I’m a bit confused why you accuse Gorta of hedging here yet every single read in this post is hedgy lol?

Hey I didn’t say my posting wasn’t hedgy, if you have an issue with that you can push it yourself, plus to be completely honest I was drunk last night so typing up long and explained posts wasn’t really something in my status quo

@Luka

So do you think they’re town or wolf here?

Nothing, if I had a read on it I would say.

I was mostly just saying things that I noticed yesterday, coming into day 2 (as I specified earlier) my reads hadn’t changed purely because I didn’t have chance to read up on things

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Now if you want to know about today, I don’t like your posting, you seem keen to want to defend yourself yet aren’t getting the engagement, one thing I always did back in the past was play on the defensive as a wolf and it benefited me heavily, I know you’re a smart player so I’m sure you’d have a similar perspective on that.

While that read may seem weird, you questioning me on my read on you (despite the specification that I don’t scumread you) feels like you’re trying to bait me to read against you so that you can defend yourself to put yourself in a better light and I’m willing to engage into it.

VOTE: Luka

[Kiiruma]

@Host_Account_1

Kiiruma (4): Leafia, Bionic, May, Someone

This contains at least 1 evil.
There’s complacency and it’s unusual.

Also Hazard has been around while I’ve been a big wagon yet didn’t really say anything about his read on me, which I’d expect to at least be a mid read, which makes me think he’s the 1st convert and therefore I shouldn’t be as happy to have him for a mid townread.

[IcetFeelsPain]

@Wazza

Plus getting killed N1 or converted in this case is not thrilling gameplay.

I disagree its an honor to die n1!!!

also I hate wolfing but being converted is so thrilling