To be fair, if we were to reach F3 with those set of players, then I wouldn’t care about the game anymore. Because by then my hidden agenda would’ve already been achieved.
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my current most prominent thoughts are:
- Protection shouldn’t work on the same player twice in a row, or there should be some other way to prevent town from making a player ~entirely unkillable
- The ability to nightkill wolves (plus no night flips) doesn’t actually do anything and honestly just made it harder to write the flavor - I think night flips should be alignment-only
- Whispers went almost entirely unused, because the risk of spewing yourself non-PR outweighed the chance to coordinate things with PRs, and once the PRs were dead there was little incentive to whisper anything
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you basically always kill f4 yah, sleep there accomplishes little. Even with hindsight, chomps being town means you gain almost nothing from sleeping anyways since he woulda just been killed anyways
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…actually, I forgot why we killed you at N2.
Hang on, lemme check.
…ah. It was because you were the one who voted Skrim last. That made me think you’d gain a lot of towncred, so I had to remove you, and your death also doubles as a doc dodge since I expect Litten/spooky to be protected.
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mostly a sidenote thbthtbthbthbthtb but I think the mech around spooky’s death had significantly more going on than was actually analyzed
I feel like not allowing PRs to use whispers really limits their early-game utility for both town and wolves and I don’t think giving PRs the ability to whisper would make things too townsided as they still have to be careful about claiming to the wrong person. Plus, an extension to the amount of characters you can use (500 maybe) would be nice. Also, I think there should be some kind of limit to the protection (for instance, prevent people from voting the same person twice in a row or give the wolves a one-time strongman ability (e.g. Pistachio - If every living wolf chooses this flavor, they will be able to break through protection with their kill but can only do this once per game). The main issue is that it can lead to situations where going into the night with F3 can lead to a coinflip for the last wolf, though that didn’t happen this game since one of the townies trusted said last wolf over their remaining teammate).
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meow
ggs
I misplayed by not voting myself and strawberrying litten, realized that like 15min after I died rip
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namely: If a wolf claims to have protected Spooky, and they don’t yet know other player’s actions, that’s rather risky, because its possible that means there’s enough claimed votes on Spooky where someone claiming to have protected them has to be lying (barring coffee)
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Also, in the situation of “wolf didn’t use coffee and all town claim truthfully”, the wolf can always avoid mech clearing anyone by claiming their true action (even if no one else has claimed yet)
yeah I realized this and I thought it would be better for everyone to message me their protections until I realized herding cats was easier and I said nothing
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Corroborating that maybe I just didn’t think about the setup much but it felt like, kinda pointless to whisper/I didn’t see a way to get a lot of value out of it as is
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also litten I apologize for my hubris to leave you and assume I wasn’t going to be attacked
I abandoned you
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once the PRs died yeah I agree
though Litten has a point about messaging protections to a ~clear townie being a good use of them
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i got infinite utility out of my zone whisper d6
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TBH I was very surprised Spooky was attacked
I don’t think I’d ever risk that kill there
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I dunno if we could have solved the game together or not. Zone was, just really hard for me to find.
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Was a blind spot for me too!
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well
actually I can kiiiiiiinda see myself going for it
but I also thought that Spooky was definitely getting enough protection votes
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Over night phase I was like “just turbo brad zzzzzz”
But then I died and Brad was like, town cleared somehow
I concur, but that raises the issue of “how does anyone know who was protected last night?”
Because I thought the intent was to hide that very information to begin with when this setup was being designed.
Yeah… NGL that gimmick is rather unusable. It never benefits the Mafia.
Eh. “People” (e.g. Oricorio and Litten) keep saying it is beneficial and that the mechanic can be used to coordinate, but I -just like you- don’t see the value in using them.
Even in this game, I used it for fun (i.e., D5 bribery), got one from Chomps to move my vote (even though votes were locked), and the last one could have been very important… had I not been Mafia.
Litten already had the correct approach IYAM. He had correctly predicted the WCS where spooky used Strawberry on Litten, and came to the correct conclusion that -unless Coffee was involved- everyone but BradLand was lying about their protection votes.
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