23456th poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7)) (Part 11)

General
#20847

i knew one of you dumbasses was gonna say that

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#20848

it doesnt even prevent spamming it just kills people and needlessly restricts shooting targets people still do spam a lot

#20849

People kept wanting a slank/spamvig when we were designing in FAM6 and I didn’t end up including it b/c I just don’t like them that much, but I see the design incentive and I don’t think they’re actively bad, just not suuuper important to me.

I do think it’s bad for games when one person posts so much that they’re un-ISOable. It’s nice to be able to reasonably parse the entirety of one person’s content

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#20850

heartwarming: after seeing how angry villagers got in fam6 when the last wolf remaining was a lost wolf, the anni wolfteam did everything in their power to make sure that wouldn’t be the case

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#20851

actually speaking of spamvigs

a villager with a role that let them fakeclaim any role they wanted and Get that role for a cycle claimed, essentially, a spamvig d1 (vig a player in the top 10 posters)

on N1 all 10 of their targets were town and they shot the same player mafia were essentially strongman killing by bus driving with a random player

who happened to be the town dayvig

this is the story of how @Marshal got essentially vigged by town and strongmanned by mafia on N1 of anni

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#20852

I did intentionally make sure the LWs weren’t entirely lost (imo they actually had a pretty cool dynamic if both lived to. night one.)

#20853

I think it does have a point when you go inhe OP “30- or 300+ posts is bad” and then implement mechanics to make sure your words aren’t empty, and I think that targeting restrictions on kills actually create interesting incentives to wolves to avoid them just shredding through their favorite SPKs.

I don’t really have a horse in the race of Spamvig Specifically b/c I think it’s not hte most interesting targeting restriction nor the most interesting incentive structure but the pieces are fine

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#20854

i think i brought up the fam6 ogi role in wolfchat as just a better implementation

#20855

you’re creating a role that says “this can only target spks as wolf”

#20856

we genuinely asked whether the post that got mimi modkilled was ogi viggable, to which hosts had to say “no and also we’re working on it.” suffice to say i don’t think roles should be encouraging these kinds of conversations

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#20857

or you know as town making it so the spam/slank cannot target anyone on the wolfteam

#20858

that sounds fine

it’s a mash a kill is gonna land in that pool 9/10 times anyway

#20859

it’s just a pointless restriction for the sake of pointless restrictions

#20860

and that was my POINT1

#20861

YOU MUFFIN

#20862

if youre an spk wolfteam wants dead they’re just gonna find another way to kill you if the spamvig cannot target you

#20863

The players with 300+ posts in FAM6 D1 were:

Jinrou
Linda
Kyubey
soweli
boredofboredom
Marshal
neil_the_eel
asherlark
mimi
Apocryphal

None were targeted by a wolf N1 kill.

#20864

i think i’m gonna tear your kidneys out
is that okay?

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#20865

I think that the overlap between people 300+ posting and SPKs is not actually suuuper high especially if the SPKs are aware of the restriction and abide by the soft postcap

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#20866

i don’t exactly think fam6 is the model wolfteam to be used for ideas of correct mechanical play