well yeah because in a scholarly sense they do
but in a practical real-world sense youâre getting a more efficient overall car which is really what I was getting at
lmao
I have spent way too long designing highly-efficient vehicles and am generally going to err on the side of oversimplifying to avoid being that cgp grey meme
fwiw I know nothing about any of these cars but highkey max range is a fake af statistic unless youâre specifically planning to take trips longer than the max range often or if your commute is longer than half the max range and you cannot charge at work
how many days out of the year do you drive more than 200 miles
for the record i have since bought and played deltarune! brand defied!
like I really love that my car gets well over 600 miles on a single (12-gallon) tank of gas, sure, but does that meaningfully affect my day to day experience with the car?
no
I do take multi-state roadtrips more often than the average american but its still not enough for me to have bought the car specifically for that reason
tl;dr id buy for MPG (or MPG-e) way before I buy for max range
again, unless it would actually impact you regularly
lets goo
also notably a more efficient car will be able to go farther on the same battery size or gas tank size which is extra important for electric cars because if you have the same max range on half the battery size youâll (usually) charge way faster (assuming same charge rate)
My wife and I regularly put stuff in the trunk that we donât want visible to tempt anyone to break into it, and thatâs something Iâve been thinking about as something Iâll lose. Itâs more convenient for storage, but most of the time I could use my backseat if I wanted convenient to access storage. If weâre taking a long trip (once a year at most), we donât need access to the luggage in the trunk until we arrive at the destination. When is the marginal utility of the hatchback going to benefit me? Iâve also been thinking about noise potential. If itâs in the trunk, the sounds are muffled because thereâs a whole backseat between the cabin and the storage. In a hatchback itâs just open. I also suspect that it takes longer to heat or cool because of the increased cabin space.
So like what am I actually going to get out of the hatchback
Max range seemed like the best metric for a comparison of aerodynamics since that would likely be highway driving with long stretches where it would actually could be a significant factor and less likely to be dominated by other factors. Again, car idiot so I could be way off.
ye thats fair, idr where you live but for me that is not a concern at all
if it was my car comes with a cover I can just pull over the contents of the trunk and that plus tinted windows (mine are CA-legal so not even that dark) is more than enough to cover that worry
but if you park on the street constantly then i can definitely see why that would factor into things
technically sure but as somebody who lives in arizona the difference on a modern car with a good-quality AC is negligible
I donât worry about it all that much, but my wife does, so I need to consider it. She recently sold her car, so it needs to fit her needs too.
assuming you normalized for battery capacity that would be true (if you again take my own earlier shorthand of âaerodynamicsâ as including stuff like weight)
So one reason I went with max range is you had just said that like EMPG was fake a post before lol, but yeah okay let me go back and find that number for the same vehicles.
itâs fake for determining car âaerodynamicsâ (used as a blanket term to encompass things like weight that affect the carâs overall efficiency when driving) relative to a gas-powered car
ie comparing an EVâs MPG-e to a gas carâs MPG is going to be an accurate reflection of how much less energy an electric car is using, but I just think that in most cases thatâs not actually that useful of a metric
comparing MPG-e between electric cars is valid though in the same way comparing MPG between gas cars is valid
the issue is that even an inefficient EV is going to have higher MPG-e than a really efficient ICE car just down to the fact that you arenât exploding gasoline to make it go (which is a pretty inefficient process)
so the difference across those ranges is largely down to the inherent inefficiency of internal combustion rather than down to the design of the car
