Blood on the Forums XXXVI: Nightmare in the Curacao Bar (10/7-15)(+2)

Does this means this minion controls the Demon good character abilities as well, or only the kills?

they control the Demon’s real ability - they don’t actually have the good character they think they do

That’s the old Hannibal version in Fall of Rome, where the minion/s controlled the night kill.

With abumbrella in play, do the other minions (if any) learn who the Demon is?

What happens if Doppelgänger learn Abumbrella? The Abumbrella need to kill blindly?

Can Helio learn only “the Demon”? (if the ST wants to be a meanie…)

How does the Lich + Novo interaction works? (good team gives up, and the game continues?)

Does the Demon even have any ability (beside killing) if there is an Abumbrella in play?

of course they do - they have the ability of the kind of Demon they really are. it’s just that while the Abumbrella is alive, the Abumbrella handles all the night choices the Demon would make. once the Abumbrella dies and their ability becomes inactive, the Demon acts completely as nomal - and puts together that they were the Demon the whole time pretty quickly.

the Minions do learn who the Demon is
yep, if the Doppelganger blinds the Abumbrella, they need to kill blindly
it absolutely can, yes
the game continues for one day, exactly the same as any other evil wincondition being triggered. this, of course, looks exactly like a Legion trying to trick good into resigning

so, to clarify, an Abumbrella’d Eodinai still alters the setup effect (although only the Abumbrella gets the clue), an Abumbrella’d Comediarch still needs a Townsfolk to be executed first before they can die, and an Abumbrerlla’d Novomane still makes it so good can only win by resigning

Legion and Abumbrella cannot and should not both be in play at the same time.

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Can the Howl become an Abumbrella? (Does it try to make the Demon believe, that from now on they are a good character?)

the Howl can become anything if they’re convincing enough, and if the Storyteller thinks it’s a good idea to let them become that character.

it tries to make them believe, but that’s pretty unilikely to actually work - however, it does give the Howl control over the Demon’s kills until they die, which makes them an even stronger Lycanthrope. it’s not reccomended.

Can the Howl turn into a Demon? If yes, does the Abumbrella effect the Howl who turned itself into a Demon?

If the Howl (somehow) becomes a Legion, does it follow Engineer or Pit-hag rules?

the Howl can become anything if the Storyteller lets them. and yes, this would happen - they are “the Demon”, after all, and so the Abumbrella would command their kills too, as well as hiding the fact that they’re the Demon from them. a key element of the Howl si that being mad that you’re evil gives you powerful abilities but comes with huge risks

and no, it doesn’t work on Engineer/Pit-Hag rules, it is an unjinxed interaction - they can easily be a Lone Demon.

If you post in a signups you should be auto inned

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hey now im a spectator with chronic fatigue mainly interetested for playtesting purposes since i’m involved with designing this script you can’t get on my case for this

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Then the helpful thing you did is not fueling the phasmosoph ability with anything else and so that gets turned against you somehow.

…how you actually do this in a game of clocktower is a mystery to me

Once per each player individually yes. High risk but high reward

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It’s not unfinished it’s just open-ended. Something bad quite literally just means an unknown bad thing.
As per the second sentence, making it “good” also makes it an unknown good thing. Either way the Pandora learns what happened

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Is the play for that Outsider to hold off unless you think the Storyteller would add a Minion?

You could almost certainly wait, but if you die before opening the box it’s never opening

Or you could go fuck it we ball

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(The ideal is you figure out if a Minion got added based on evil activity, some information and vibes and then box if you think there is an extra)

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Anyway-
Will probably close up on January 1st given signup activity is slowed

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holy shit