Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 1

dia made a really unnatural neighborhood read as wolf in april showers. stood out to me. mostly what saying this achieves is wolfreading dia in a game which has already finished but noting that for future reference

Whoever is neighborizer should add dia to the hood so we can test this out

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wow u did a ton of backreading in ur first day at fol school

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idt jason’s thing really holds weight both bc of dia’s note that the setups were different and bc this was first game here vs second game here, but from a skim i think dia is not super difficult to read based on making reads that make sense so i’m not particularly concerned.

jason neither gains nor loses points for citing this. actually maybe a slight loss, bc it feels like jason was making a very simple vibe read that he could have explained instead of saying vibes. i do that as wolf.

but i do it as villager too so who knows

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well i’ve been in a timeloop for 15 years so i can do number theory now

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homura-chan….

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anyways im going to ignore this insult sandwich and say yes true

my specialty

I think this comes from town

anyway let me put my mouth where my money is VOTE: jason

something genuinely off here imo, not just nervousness, the reads feel weird. oversimplifying dia to a couple recent games + underspecifying meta and back-justifying feels bad

The progression of

  • seeing i scumleaned dia
  • probing me to figure out what i was thinking
  • skimming april showers to get a sense of what dia’s wolfplay looks like
  • stating how they read dia in the skim
  • stating that i was onto nothing and that there were better ways of reading dia

is all super believable

Also the way they unintentionally dismissed dia as being easy to read feels like it comes from town focused on solving and getting their reads right, and i think mafia wouldn’t say something like that bc they’d be afraid of potentially alienating town

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mm interesting, I can buy the pfp thing I guess

I don’t understand

feel very uncomfortable with this post. we’ll see

jason was weird at the start. don’t think the fakeclaim question is really clearing. was at null, but I do currently like his points on dia at the moment. I don’t really think wolf jason starts out pushing someone so early…so leaning town. also this recent 36501 towncase feels too much effort for d1 wolf jason, it reminds me of when he towncased me in grande idea

what was it?

-meow

ooh wait I have a little subtitle that says it’s gummy and meow that’s so cute
-meow

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“no way this 3 person neighborhood is pure”, basically

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true t!me also thinks this but probably doesn’t verbalize it i’m sitting my white ass down etc

Let me break it down bit by bit to see if it’s even possible

1 - the first X actions that target me will fail
2 - for any actions that fail, i will learn who visited me

Ascetic could explain point 1 somewhat but again weird stuff there since it makes all abilities except killing ones fail? Commuter / Hider can also explain it too but then it’s a X shot commuter which is possible until you see point 2.

Loud (Possible Other section) explains point 2 somewhat but it’s like… the exact opposite of it which is weird. Since we’re using characters in a list of vanilla roles which is already linked.

It’s like the claim is a Ascetic/Commuter/Hider combined with an opposite Loud modifier / a passive self targeting watcher.

But it’s also early enough that I think good players could / maybe would lie? IDK

unfortunately jason’s townread on me feels fairly legit

I think the substance of the post itself isn’t that unnatural? For context this was a 10p game and dia, beancat, and carbon were neighbors at the start of the game.

For example, t!beancat also expressed something similar

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individual personality difference, i actually used to wolfread beancat for saying stuff like that but i expect it specifically from her

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other comments:

  • don’t understand what it means for dia to seemingly unknowingly? claim role that isn’t possible in this setup
  • like the willow mechposting
  • didn’t like a bunch of 36501’s initial reads feeling like they were reading people very differently than me/gummy (scumread on catbae, jason; townread willow, dia?). later posting (summarizing dia specifically) I liked though
  • I liked the singular frost post asking me about jason for no reason

-meow