Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Mafia - Day 1

[36501]

it’s something most people try to do because they think town does it, but most town don’t do it anymore, expect for beancat

[melatonin]

I mean carbon instantly also doubted the neighborhood was pure after beancat joined -meow

[36501]

and carbon

[36501]

in seriousness it was also the wording and timing of the post, revealing it like a big bombshell and trying to initiate a bunch of focus on it + treating it like a given that everybody else will believe the hood definitely contains a wolf

[jason.mrrown]

@melatonin

like the willow mechposting

How similar/different do you think this is compared to the mechposting she was doing in grande idea d1?

[36501]

dia later talked about it like it was a mech 50/50 and the game was balanced around town shooting into the hood

@diafiasco

if neighborhood isn’t pure then from our pov it’s a 50/50 shot on the others

way better odds than firing randomly off d1 reads

@diafiasco

@meow

(imagining a town-mafia-neutral neighborhood now)

i also lowkey had this thought on my drive home but that feels kinda unlikely cause i figure this game is balanced around town most likely shooting into the hood first

this is too confident for a villager imo. though when i read the game (on my first day of fol school of course) i paid much more attention to dia’s post than beancat’s + carbon’s so idk if they also did it and will prove me instantly wrong

@diafiasco

i don’t like looking at people’s past games too much bc for most people i find “tells” to be overstated. context matters!!!

also this post flagged me instantly when i was reading the game before i knew dia’s alignment (on my first day of fol school) so again i think dia has tells that aren’t “gets into the game too fast” and i think jason’s read isn’t super good

[Kiiruma]

@melatonin

feel very uncomfortable with this post. we’ll see

I mean, it’s just the truth x3
You know about our previous game with me dying early and I’m kinda expecting there’ll be some spicy combinations so it’s a shame that Leafia last game was essentially a 1 shot protective (post my death) and is claiming VT now, plus it’s kinda irritating that Leafia would out as VT (If truthful) because it makes Leafia much less likely to be attacked during the night whereas those with more vanilla characters being targeted could allow those of us with stronger mechanical abilities to survive longer and make use of said abilities.

@melatonin

don’t understand what it means for dia to seemingly unknowingly? claim role that isn’t possible in this setup

This is something I agree with you on. It’s strange but I don’t know if it’s alignment indicative or someone just trying to claim to generate discussion. I’d talked about it in my previous post as requested by jason.

[melatonin]

similar, my vibe was just that willow likes thinking about game design and roles generally
don’t think willow really. made any social reads in grande idea though, so she’s got that going for her right now
well, she pushed marluna slightly d1 I think, but like, I think it was off mech metagaming? her push on you felt similar to her push on me when we were somewhat mutually bussing, so there’s an actual social read being made? I don’t think she really made any other reads that game
in contrast, she was definitely making town/scumreads in the madoka game

-meow

[diafiasco]

@Kiiruma

plus it’s kinda irritating that Leafia would out as VT (If truthful)

outing as VT in a vacuum is value neutral in my eyes

[diafiasco]

it is also a thing u could easily do as a town PR

[36501]

@diafiasco

it is also a thing u could easily do as a town PR

leafia doesn’t tend to do that

[melatonin]

• I think I also made a post about whether the hood was a trap or not/if we were expected to shoot into it; I guess I lacked the same confidence, but I don’t think it’s wolf-only thought
• but also I think I’m just nitpicking at semantics or whatever because you actually notice the more social? context/mindset behind the posts more than the substance necessarily? I really liked how you explained your earlier dia neighborhood read here/it made a lot more sense to me than the individual posts you quoted

@36501

in seriousness it was also the wording and timing of the post, revealing it like a big bombshell and trying to initiate a bunch of focus on it + treating it like a given that everybody else will believe the hood definitely contains a wolf

[melatonin]

@Kiiruma

plus it’s kinda irritating that Leafia would out as VT (If truthful) because it makes Leafia much less likely to be attacked during the night whereas those with more vanilla characters being targeted could allow those of us with stronger mechanical abilities to survive longer and make use of said abilities.

incredibly you are somehow pinpointing my source of discomfort with your post without acknowledging it…I don’t like that you claimed a pr for no reason, for well, the exact inverse of the reasons you just gave for why you didn’t like leafia claiming vt. I thought you liked playing under the radar

-meow

[Leafia]

@ElizaThePsycho

no yeah i see it
mafia tend to be nervous when entering thread for the first time

it’s not exactly a Strong read but we are 50 posts into day 1 so
sure. why not.
VOTE: jason

This feels a bit wolfy to me as mafia aren’t always nervous upon entering the thread for the first time. I don’t even know why anyone would be. VOTE: Willow

Anyway, I find it weird how much heat Jason has on him already and it makes md think he’s slightly more likely to be a villager here.

@catbae

i am decidedly at ease, because i’m happy to be back and do not feel any pressure due to being town and i expect that will show in my posts

i expect inevitably doubt will set in because that type of gut read never sustains itself, but it’s early game and there isn’t much else to talk about so i advise you roll with it

i’m…not gonna give oyu advice on how to catch me but for most games it’s like, everyone at the start is more likely to be town, if you feel okay then it’s fine to trust someone at the start and re-eval if there’s reason for doubt

Townlean on Catbae takes up martial arts and grows stronger.

@diafiasco

i don’t see an anticlaim anywhere so i’m claiming day 1 baby let’s go classic dia content

1. the first X actions that target me will fail. i’m not going to say what X is because it doesn’t help town
2. for any actions that fail, i will learn who visited me
3. if having read this information you still decide to visit me, i will assume you are wolf and push you the fuck out

This claim feels extremely wolfy to me. Like Dia is a wolf that’s afraid of getting copchecked. Plus, that claim doesn’t sound very realistic to me.

@catbae

that is extremely not chloe lol

Agreed.

@Kiiruma

Ah we actually have vanilla characters? Sucks for you lol. I’m personally excited to be able to use my ability to help this game since I didn’t get too much of a chance in our other game together, I feel confident since it’s a list of ‘vanilla roles’ many of which aren’t just vanilla x3

Townleaning this. I don’t mind being vanilla town. Licks my arm Yum. Vanilla is tasty. Especially vsnilla ice cream.

@36501

to be clear i’m implying you’re wolf and i’m going to bus you

If Kiiruma was a wolf, you’d have to be a fellow wolf to bus him.

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Idk if its fully vanilla roles. I cant die to exe or nk till n3 but after that i die if anyone targets me.

Which doesnt feel vanilla

Likelihood of Hippo being a villager rising. Likelyhood of Hippo being honest about his role: 0%.

@36501

anyway let me put my mouth where my money is VOTE: jason

The saying actually is to put your money where your mouth is.

@Kiiruma

plus it’s kinda irritating that Leafia would out as VT (If truthful) because it makes Leafia much less likely to be attacked during the night

I doubt it makes it any more or less likely although I’ll be shocked if I make it anywhere close to lylo after April Showers Forlorn.

[Leafia]

@36501

unfortunately jason’s townread on me feels fairly legit

This is strange wording to use. Why do you think it’s unfortunate? Don’t you want to improve your read on Jason?

[catbae]

@melatonin

also this recent 36501 towncase feels too much effort for d1 wolf jason

is jason like super omega polarized or something

[36501]

@Leafia

@36501

unfortunately jason’s townread on me feels fairly legit

This is strange wording to use. Why do you think it’s unfortunate? Don’t you want to improve your read on Jason?

i don’t have many reads right now, and jason improving his posting means i don’t have a vote i feel as strongly about

[catbae]

you could always vote me again

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

double-checked; Prince is on the role list as “elim-proof” (in the same category as Bulletproof/Killproof)

a D1/D2/D3 Prince is something that could exist
… i’m not sure why Hippo is claiming this, or where the other bit comes from, but in theory you could accomplish it with a Reflexive Regretful Weak Visitor
that’s just kind of stupid, though

[36501]

@catbae

you could always vote me again

yeah sounds like a plan. are you free next tuesday?