[GAME THREAD 6/13] Risky Light Game: Featuring Rain - Day 4 - Mafia wonnered

[clonedcheese]

Just in case anyone wonders why im voting prof

@clonedcheese

Pretty sure i caught another scum here
Prof is taking way to much effort defending Brad; they wouldn’t have any reason to, unless someone was correctly accusing Brad for the correct reasons

I think Brad/Prof are W/W and id prefer to kill prof first

[Professor]

@clonedcheese

Just in case anyone wonders why im voting prof

@clonedcheese

Pretty sure i caught another scum here

Prof is taking way to much effort defending Brad; they wouldn’t have any reason to, unless someone was correctly accusing Brad for the correct reasons

I think Brad/Prof are W/W and id prefer to kill prof first

Ah yes, the posts that you accused me of defending Brad for:

@Professor

@BradLand

/Vote: thepigeonnyc @Commando

If this flips mafia then Leafia is spewed town.

Pretty sure this is correct.

@Professor

@BradLand

However when I went back to read his reasoning, it looks like he actually read what Leafia was posting?

Ironically, this is what makes Pigeon wolfier than Magnus to me.

Because either of these posts are doing that?
Not to mention, I hadn’t even read your post when I wrote these. When will you stop talking out of your ass?

[thepigeonnyc]

@Professor

and yet voted/left his vote on Magnus rather than moving to Frog

Yesterday I didn’t have much of a reason for this, but now I’m not changing it since I don’t want my vote thrown out

[Frog]

@Professor

I am… mildly offended by this.

Lol!!! I’m sorry for offending you, but I’m kind of entertained that you took your time to assuage your own ego rather than focus on ganeplay. I don’t really know if it’s alignment indicative but it helps me understand you better as a player

@clonedcheese

My definition of a “bad read” is “one with either none or bogus evidence”

My first post pretty much that, and I purposely made it so

Furthermore, trying to read a player off of one post that they made, especially to the point of trying to execute them over it, is an inherently scummy move that attempts to kill LHF.

Ok, so you’re not saying bad = incorrect, you’re saying bad = poorly framed argument

Yeah I don’t care if arguments are framed well or not, or if they even make sense tbh. Just catch wolves and win, the rest doesn’t really matter a whole lot to me, which might bother you about my playstyle going forward because I’m going to dunk on pigeon and then I’m going to catch another wolf, and then another

[Leafia]

Less than two hours until the post count restriction is lifted and I intend to use all 50 posts by the time it is. Not sure why myself. It’s just something I feel like doing. I’ll post only one more time before 5 and twice between 5 and 6.

[Frog]

@Gorta

do you mean based on reasons not feelings?

Nah bro, i mean what do you feel, I don’t care about ticky tacky stuff, I want to feel what you’re feeling

@Squirrel2412

that game is like 10000 posts long

Yeah it’s not worth re-reading tbh, if you want a reference to my meta, this is my most recent town game

@Aelin

Ah, a bit of explanation - Trochi is my best friend, and we’ve known each other for a long time. I also know that the differences between their townrange and scumrange are pretty minute, so I’m focusing more on micro reads for them.

Man… okay. I can’t help but feel like you’re mildy pocketing trochi here while simultaneously evading my previous concern. So like, you were talking about me to trochi in a way that framed me negatively. Fine. But why? It was to test Trochi I assume?

From my POV, I could see myself doing the same thing, questioning the town read and seeing how someone reacts to backing down or hanging on to the read. But it feels like that wasn’t even your play there??? So like… it just feels agenda-y

And then Im coming back to my thought on your conspiracy theory where it felt like you were trying to tie a Mafia!Professor flip to set me up for a future flip since Professor was taking heat.

And then I see this:

@Professor

Ah, was that your reason for changing your read on him? If so, I’m kind of glad that it was a mistake.

Care to join me?
/vote clonedcheese @Commando

@Aelin

Sure
But yeah I was reading cloned’s wallpost right before it and missed the cutoff where yours began

/vote clonedcheese @Commando

So now my paranoia siren is going off while I’m in the gym and I don’t want to forget this

@Frog

I’m not crazy

@clonedcheese
Talk to me, reading through your stuff

[Frog]

@clonedcheese

someone come save me

… lol don’t play to survive, play to win

Find wolves, win

I’m here until EOD more or less

[Illwei]

how many posts am i at

[Illwei]

cool this i spost 24

i wanted to hit 50 but

[Aelin]

@Frog

So like, you were talking about me to trochi in a way that framed me negatively. Fine. But why?

They were townreading you, so I was wondering if they had a different perspective on some of the things that worried me. Everyone’s already been going over and over again what they think you’ve done that’s towny, so I didn’t just want a rehashing here.

@Frog

Man… okay. I can’t help but feel like you’re mildy pocketing trochi here while simultaneously evading my previous concern.

Mildly pocketing Trochi by… talking to them? Or by calling them my best friend? Because both would be ineffective, because usually they’re so paranoid of me that they’ll reverse their read on my seven times a game lol

@Frog

And then Im coming back to my thought on your conspiracy theory where it felt like you were trying to tie a Mafia!Professor flip to set me up for a future flip since Professor was taking heat.

i mean
if you look at my language this doesn’t really make sense because 1) i agreed on the fact that professor seemed like he was whiteknighting leafia

@Aelin

If I’m really trying to go out there, you and Frog are W/W and trying to make yourselves look unaligned based on taking polarized stances on Leafia so one of you can have major sway in the game no matter what happens afterwards, because if you are experienced with Leafia, you know that as town she tends to gravitate towards following people who are townreading her.

@Aelin

If I’m really trying to go out there

@Aelin

… maybe.

it was a continuation of the previous thought of

@Aelin

@Professor

I must ask though, why do you think I would be trying to defend and pocket you? As a wolf it would make much more sense for me to allow you to continue receiving pressure

Towncred down the line could come very easily. It could also set you up for chainsaws based off of “Leafia was so towny, I told you all this very early. The fact that you still pushed makes you very wolfy.” and gives you a lot of wiggle room.

im not going to just stop at step one and in one of the last games i played this was almost exactly how it played out, with one person whiteknighting me and the other pushing me. The ‘other’ person who was pushing me is one of the people that I think Professor could be (Marshal), so, I mean…

[Frog]

@clonedcheese

Can I have your take on this read

Sarcasm isn’t exactly the same vibe as sassy IMO NAI

[clonedcheese]

@Frog

… lol don’t play to survive, play to win

I meant my sanity not my life, but sure

@Frog

Sarcasm isn’t exactly the same vibe as sassy IMO NAI

That was mainly a call for help after hearing prof say I was contradicting myself lol

@Frog

Talk to me, reading through your stuff

Where do you stand on Brad?
I’ve never read him reliably so willing to take second opinions

[Professor]

@thepigeonnyc

@Professor

and yet voted/left his vote on Magnus rather than moving to Frog

Yesterday I didn’t have much of a reason for this, but now I’m not changing it since I don’t want my vote thrown out

Can you rephrase this?

@Frog

I’m kind of entertained that you took your time to assuage your own ego rather than focus on ganeplay

#priorities

@Frog

because I’m going to dunk on pigeon

You’re… a bit late, bud.

@Frog

@Squirrel2412

that game is like 10000 posts long

Yeah it’s not worth re-reading tbh, if you want a reference to my meta, this is my most recent town game

Shit, that was good.

@Frog

So now my paranoia siren is going off while I’m in the gym and I don’t want to forget this

You think that me and Aelin are W/W and that Aelin tried to tie me to you? Do you also think I ask my wolfmate in the thread to vote the person they were already scumreading but not voting? Meanwhile, Aelin also says I could W/W with you…
So both of you are saying I am/could be a wolf with the other, but neither of you are directly trying to kill me.
I don’t think my slot is being fairly evaluated by a number of people.

@Aelin

im not going to just stop at step one and in one of the last games i played this was almost exactly how it played out, with one person whiteknighting me and the other pushing me. The ‘other’ person who was pushing me is one of the people that I think Professor could be (Marshal), so, I mean…

This is a rather villagery thought, but I don’t think it holds any merit. Without confirming nor denying my identity, let’s say I did this last game. The context would be vastly different, my wolfmate would be different, and so would the rest of the playerlist. I think to say I would take the exact same approach again in a different context is… more based on paranoia rather than rational thinking.

[clonedcheese]

@Aelin

The ‘other’ person who was pushing me is one of the people that I think Professor could be (Marshal), so, I mean…

I’m like 85% sure it’s Seth

[Professor]

@clonedcheese

I’m like 85% sure it’s Seth

I nearly just fell off my chair
This is the greatest violation i have ever received in my experience of this game

[Leafia]

I honestly think I’ll be the only one to hit 50 before the post restriction is lifted in an hour and 20 minutes. I have 2 more posts left but I’m satisfied with the threadstate for now. I’m reasonably confident that the Cloned/Professor argument is TvT for now, but I’m honestly starting to see what Professor is getting at about Cloned. I’m just not sure what it means yet but I think I’ll take Cloned out of my towncore for the time being.

[clonedcheese]

Current readlist

Town
Yours Truly

Towny and I have a reason for it
Magnus
Trochilidae
Leafia

Talkative
Frog
Aelin

Null
Squirrel2412
illwei
Gorta

Nurds
EliThePsycho
thepigeonnyc

Scoom
BradLand
Professor

Also @ElizaThePsycho get thine ass in here nurd

[Aelin]

@clonedcheese

@Aelin

The ‘other’ person who was pushing me is one of the people that I think Professor could be (Marshal), so, I mean…

I’m like 85% sure it’s Seth

ive never been the best at alt guessing shrug

@Professor

Meanwhile, Aelin also says I could W/W with you…
So both of you are saying I am/could be a wolf with the other, but neither of you are directly trying to kill me.

this was literally a worldbuild from my second post and since then i have reevaluated you

this is beginning to annoy me a lil bit

@Professor

This is a rather villagery thought, but I don’t think it holds any merit. Without confirming nor denying my identity, let’s say I did this last game. The context would be vastly different, my wolfmate would be different, and so would the rest of the playerlist. I think to say I would take the exact same approach again in a different context is… more based on paranoia rather than rational thinking.

1. Yes, I am aware, but I was thinking macro not micro
   ive had a previous experience with this exact thing and the scenario reminded me of it almost exactly
   ergo…
2. just because youre paranoid doesnt mean theyre not out to get you

@clonedcheese

@Aelin I don’t care if you scumread me, I need some sanity in my life

your second mistake was thinking i was sane, but im willing to talk regardless

[clonedcheese]

May I ask why you are voting pigeon?

(Edit: brain shut down for a sec)

[Illwei]

I could hit 50 but it’d be pointless and probably negatively impactful on thread or whatnot

doesn’t mean that i don’t still want to though