Alright, let’s look back to the beginning of the story.
Mistyx:
ratio
VOTE: Magnus
Zone_Q11:
Mistyx started.
Ashlyn is being opportunistic, and Eliza wants a quickhammer. I propose we focus on these two for the remainder of D1.
Zone intended to distance from his partners this early on in a w!Eliza world. Despite wanting to focus on her slot, Zone barely mentions her again on the first day.
Zone_Q11:
It doesn’t sound like it; it is it.
Zone_Q11:
So there has to be at least one mafia within [Chihiro, Gorta, Lissi, Eliza, Mistyx, Frost].
Zone_Q11:
At P#909 , Eliza joined Ashlyn’s wagon without any reason. Now, the weird thing about this is: I can see why v!Eliza wanted to join a wagon for the sake of “head empty, sheep top wagon”, but then she switched her vote to Frost at P#920 and then switched again back to Ashlyn at P#929 . This is obviously very hedge-y and scummy. It is very easy for w!Eliza to join the EOD with low-effort and vote for whichever wagon. Same thing with Mistyx: If Frost flips town, then I think that Eliza is definitely mafia.
Zone_Q11:
Okay, so based on these reads, I have come to the following conclusion:
If this flips town, then Mistyx and Eliza are next.
So we already know Frost was Mafia. Given how Zone later tried to save Frost, this suggests Zone prepared his action plan, but threw it out the window for some reason later. This entire post was written with the expectation of Mist dying during the night, so writing Frost > w!Eliza makes a degree of sense. Especially if we believe Zone was trying to outlive his peers.
Zone hedges Eliza’s slot here, despite earlier limited interaction between them.
That’s it for Zone on Eliza D2.
Zone_Q11:
Unfortunately, unlike SOD2, I got nothing for today’s opening. I tried giving Frost a chance to talk, and that turned out to be a mistake.
Fortunately Eliza was there to save the day, and since Frost flipped wolf, that leaves me with focusing on [Chihiro, Lissi, Gorta] for the rest of D3.
Zone_Q11:
Chihiro
Neon
I mentioned the rest of my townreads before already, and here I added Zorvo because I just realized that Zorvo was Frost’s counterwagon. He had been pushed a lot by Frost at D2, going as far as to make a list of who Zorvo could’ve been partnered with. That doesn’t seem W/W.
With that in mind, all I have left is a POE of [Neon, Wazza, Lemlem].
Zone tries putting Eliza up in his readlist after being roleblocked by Chihiro. This could be antispew, but it’s pretty subtle for that.
Zone_Q11:
They simply cannot believe that me being the N2 kill is more plausible than me being the assigned mafia. In the simplest way that I can explain it: It’s just bias, formed by their years worth of experiences playing this game.
–also, I’m not sure “everyone” is “leaping” into it.
Zone_Q11:
Well it’s not Chihiro since nobody claimed Protective. Based on our conversation, I don’t think you meant Gorta, and I don’t think you are playing the devil’s advocate by saying I miscleared you,
…Lissi, what is your current readslist?
Zone_Q11:
You know what? Fair enough.
Gorta, Lissi, Neon
Lissi mentioned how I might have miscleared someone within my townreads. I couldn’t tell which one within [Eliza, Magnus, Zorvo] I was misclearing, so I just threw them all into the new POE. I had initially put [Neon, Lemlem] at the same rank as [Gorta, Lissi], but I need to give time to Lemlem because she claims to be burnt out, which… is not something I can verify.
At this time, Zone would be in solid antispew mode.
Zone_Q11:
I mistook Zorvo for Frost. The content doesn’t change though. You told me Today that you only townread Neon/Zorvo to spite them, so if you don’t actually townread one or both of them, then that post does not make sense at all.
Having said that, the origin of my ping is the fact that (after I moved the entirety of my high townreads to the new scumreads) the three of you suddenly look very likely have both of the remaining scumpair. Magnus/Zorvo; Magnus/Eliza; Zorvo/Eliza; all three of them sound very plausible all of the sudden.
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Zone_Q11:
I mean, I already told Magnus how my POE is Magnus/Zorvo, Magnus/Eliza, or Zorvo/Eliza.
I think that Magnus is definitely scum, but the issue is that I don’t know who his partner is.
Zone_Q11:
I am determined that Magnus is a mafia, but I am uncertain whether his scumbuddy is Zorvo or Eliza. In the event that it was Eliza, then Magnus would be attempting to match Zorvo’s reads in order to pocket him.
However, I have no evidence that Zorvo is town, hence why I mentioned that Magnus matching Zorvo’s reads can still be W/W; Zorvo takes the lead and Magnus follows it to amplify the push on Lissi/Zone.
Zone_Q11:
Lissi, you probably need to re-eval (as you have mentioned before), because you have 1 scumread, 5 townreads, and an unevaluated Neon. In particular, I want you to re-eval Eliza and Zorvo.
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Zone_Q11:
Well then. My POE still consists of Magnus/Zorvo/Eliza. Lemlem has not been talking for over 24 hours, so I guess it’s time for me to vote someone else. Neon changed her mind about me again, it seems. That’s… I don’t even know what to say about that.
VOTE: Magnus
Zone_Q11:
Look, the original list is [Gorta, Lissi | Neon | Lemlem | Eliza, Magnus, Zorvo], but I have Lemlem on null and I didn’t wanna bother explaining why I have four tiers, so I shoved Neon into your tier.
You never asked me about my townreads before AFAICR, and if they sound weakly argumented, then that’s just your opinion.
You mentioned Yesterday how I miscleared someone in my townreads, so I shoved the middle tier into the new scum tier and it somehow suddenly looks more feasible for it to contain the scumteam rather than Neon/Lemlem.
@Lemonfairy @Neon can you both read this and share your opinions?
