Netrunner Mafia - Game Over: Mala Tempora

[Kanave]

People were calling the vote bad, then when Eliza tried to backpedal thought the backpedal was worse from what i can see (that’s where i stand atleast)

[Vulgard]

@guavagudetama

By this logic… I don’t feel as though Kanave comes out looking like an idiot

It’s her being involved in this that still qualifies. Idk, I guess this principle makes more sense in my head.

And no wonder you don’t remember Penguin’s previous posting - it’s a fair bit of nothing.

I’ll be back later.

[Flygon]

@ElizaThePsycho

@Dum

@ElizaThePsycho

I also do not like this part of this post

why, exactly?

i think the read is made up

I mean theoretically Dum gave an “excuse” so it makes sense how Kanave can consider it defensive.
Even if the interaction between Arctic and Dum there was joke like, it can still be viewed the way Kanave is viewed. It’s not a fake thought process.
Here are the posts for reference:

@Arctic

in that case i think you ought to relinquish your title

@Dum

oh i only used that title to piss off may by copycatting her, i’ll go change it

@Kanave

okay crazy thought bc its barely even game related but i don’t like this defensiveness
VOTE: Dum

@guavagudetama

Good morning
Just logged on and there’s already a vote on Arctic and Eliza
Just another day on FoL I suppose

Yep. Another beautiful cluster of pressure ready to explode. ;).

@guavagudetama

@Dum

theres a fucking post cap?

Me right before the game started

Y’know, I also had no idea we had a votecount.
Silly me, if it wasn’t brought up I might have went over the cap and that wouldn’t have been good.

@guavagudetama

I’m also a little suspicious of Kana but I don’t understand the dislike on her voting Caspore for two seconds to explain to them that you can switch votes at any time. You saying that just makes it seem like you didn’t actually read the post, just saw that she voted Caspore for saying one NAI sentence, and didn’t actually think about the context surrounding it.

This is a good point!
I only really focused on Eliza’s argument of Kana’s reasoning of voting Dum but I also did notice the Caspore vote as well but didn’t really look into that one.
I’ll give you town points for pointing this out!

@ElizaThePsycho what did you not like about that post/vote?

@guavagudetama

While I disagree with Eliza’s first point, the second post she pointed out from Kanave also caught my attention.

And Hopes I explained my thoughts on that one well enough! ^_^

@Vulgard

Rn I feel more strongly about Arctic being a wolf but I also think that has a greater chance of being wrong (because I’m more convinced) and so I’m chasing something less certain.

I wouldn’t obsess over the read on the player itself.
If Arctic is a wolf I’m sure there will be more clear tells of it later on in the game or perhaps even the remainder of this day phase.

@Vulgard

We could also push Ashlyn so she solves the game for us and then pivot to someone she calls a wolf. Easy dub.

This is under the assumption that she is villager and that she is correct in her read.

@Squirrel2412

why?

villagers could have made up reads, especially 50 posts into the game

I don’t think people make up their reads.
But they might exaggerate them or fake them to seek a reaction.

@guavagudetama

It must be thanksgiving because this turkey’s about to get cooked

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

Anyway I don’t like Eliza doubling down on this push on Kanave where Kanave goes “So yeah you can VOTE: Caspore switch votes at any time” and Eliza goes “HMMMMMM SEEMS LIKE A MADE UP READ TO ME!” like yeah that was the whole point she was demonstrating switching votes what

I’ll follow you in this one.

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

@Vulgard

This feels V/V/V but I feel slightly hesitant to call it out as such because it’s so stupid. But it’s so stupid that it really does feel V/V/V.

I mean it’s not impossible for Squirrel, Eliza and Kanave to all be town.
However I think I’d feel very concerned about your post here if your a wolf cause that would be quite a read and it would definitely be an interesting strategy but I’d have to figure out what the purpose of it was.

[Flygon]

Probably should go ISO Eliza and see if she has the answer I am seeking from them.

Flygon

[Vulgard]

@Flygon

This is under the assumption that she is villager and that she is correct in her read.

If the person we target with the pivot is town, Ashlyn will be confirmed mafia.

No pressure if you’re town, Ashlyn.

[guavagudetama]

@Flygon

I’ll give you town points for pointing this out!

@Vulgard

I think you’re ?probably? town so sure.

Omg guys stop it you’re gonna make me blush……. (no seriously I don’t wanna be the night 1 kill stop it)

[Kanave]

@Flygon

@Vulgard

We could also push Ashlyn so she solves the game for us and then pivot to someone she calls a wolf. Easy dub.

This is under the assumption that she is villager and that she is correct in her read.

Fairly sure this is atleast in part a reference to pathological, where we misexe’d her d1 despite her being on a wolf who we all ignored iirc

[Kanave]

@guavagudetama

Omg guys stop it you’re gonna make me blush……. (no seriously I don’t wanna be the night 1 kill stop it)

you won’t get n1’d if you stop posting content just saying :D

[guavagudetama]

You know I can’t do that my brain is going 100 miles an hour thinking about this game and nothing else

[Flygon]

@ElizaThePsycho

anyways I’m going to say that’s enough reactions

me in my head earlier: I will make up a fake read to provoke people
me in my head slightly less earlier: I will pretend to not know that people make up fake reads
me in my head now: alright that’s enough reactions

anaylsis time

So you made a fake read to call a persons read made up?
I don’t think calling someone’s read made up is directly a read but rather an accusation but alright.

@Vulgard

@Flygon

This is under the assumption that she is villager and that she is correct in her read.

If the person we target with the pivot is town, Ashlyn will be confirmed mafia.

No pressure if you’re town, Ashlyn.

I should read more cause idk what “pivot” is.

[NinjaPenguin]

Yeah I guess what I’m saying is I don’t think it’s a wolfy backpedal because a wolf can just backpedal saying the vote is a joke without feeling the need for something more convoluted
Like if she is someone who has played mafia before she should know it’d make her slot look less surface-level good why is she posting in a way that she knows makes her slot objectively look worse if she’s scum
I think you’re convincing me to fully tr her for this lmao

[Vulgard]

@Flygon

your a wolf

[guavagudetama]

Pivot as in
Town is pushing one person
Ashlyn is like “this person is sus”
Town swaps all their votes to the person Ashlyn said

[ElizaThePsycho]

ok flygon is wolf
VOTE: Flygon

@Flygon

So you made a fake read to call a persons read made up?
I don’t think calling someone’s read made up is directly a read but rather an accusation but alright.

this reaction literally sucks
like,
hmm how do i explain it

[Kanave]

I disagree, Eliza had been talking about it for too long and doubled down on it for too long to be able to have claimed it was just a joke

Netrunner Mafia (13/13) - Day 1: What Lies Ahead

yes

like i don’t think she could easily be like “Yeah i was joking when i clarified that i thought it was wolfy”

[guavagudetama]

LMAO WHAT
Eliza that’s literally a fact please
Like it’s pedantic but is that wolf?

[Vulgard]

@guavagudetama

Omg guys stop it you’re gonna make me blush……. (no seriously I don’t wanna be the night 1 kill stop it)

@guavagudetama

You know I can’t do that my brain is going 100 miles an hour thinking about this game and nothing else

You’re making it worse.

[Flygon]

@Vulgard

We could also push Ashlyn so she solves the game for us and then pivot to someone she calls a wolf. Easy dub.

So you mean actually pivoting, not some kinda ability.
Gotcha.

Well I see flaws with this plan, main one being they can be a villager and villagers can be wrong, but Y’know it’s early day one and we are building ideas.

Flygon

[guavagudetama]

I understand that

[ElizaThePsycho]

what’s the difference between a read and an accusation?
why do they make this post? if it is, in fact, factual it is

• shade
• information without analysis