Odyssey to the Fortress of Lunacy - Day 4 (12/28)

they stole my like farming

sigh…

@Chomps @Frostwolf103 we are the towncore which means everyone has to sheep us whats the plan

Really just feels like people are throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks, I guess that’s where we’re at right now though, right? I’m personally not comfortable with voting catbae I’d much rather do proph or okazo, and if I’m wrong well sue me I’m allowed to be

Is ruby town? Theyve had some good posts but idk what they’re capable of as mafia.

The great sage’s a bastard

Comfortable as in I can’t see a world where they are easily a wolf and build a team from them. Most likely a skill issue on my part.

@Hippopablompoyeetus Ruby’s stance is showing here

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I think the townleans can be mistaken

What do you think Hippo?

If I get executed today and flip town, what would be your first thoughts on re-evaluating the gamestate? Don’t just take the easy way out and say that snowe/catbae would be wolves.

Do you have any thoughts on me or catbae besides putting us in null? I think both of us have enough content where putting us at null doesn’t make a lot of sense.

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I for one would agree with this statement, but that is why I want snowe executed and have TI handle between them two (you and catbae)

@Jarek

What is your read on snowe? I looked through your ISO and your readslist from 24 hours ago doesn’t mention her, and you are stuck between me and O.kazo for wolves.

Also, can you tell me what changed in your progression here, wrt your read on me?

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It’s flip flopping, someone has to be evil and you fit the bill more comfortably than most, despite the fact I like your posting, I can’t like everyone. In a weird sort of way I like your posting but I wouldn’t be suprised to find out you were actually evil. You know?

That is true, I generally don’t think there’s anything I can add to the conversation about them and I haven’t bothered to try. If you’re trying to insinuate I’m ignoring reading my wolf partner and you think we’re paired then I’m calling it out right here and now.

Really it just boils down to not seeing the point in wasting time reading a slot literally the entire game has talked about. It’s not going to get anywhere to parrot what other people have said. And nobody is really talking about okazo, or you - well they are but less than I’d like.

I know this isn’t directed at me but I feel inclined to answer anyway. Any votes on you and especially votes that shift from other wagons would be people I’d heavily suspect especially given how I’m of the world that we’ve got a wolf voted somewhere in these top wagons it’s just a matter of finding out which one.

I think Snowe is the likeliest to hit a wolf - but not guaranteed.

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Why do you think I am more likely to be mafia than catbae? You previously stated that you thought he was town D1 and he is very “whelming” today. On D1, you voted catbae for wolfreading you but then backed off once he explained he was catching up.

Could you give me a few sentences re: your read on catbae D1 and why you think certain people (like me and Kazo) are “safer” options to execute than him today?

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snowe is currently not voting anyone.

In the event I randomly get confirmed town somehow, do you think there are any wolves currently on my wagon?

Because i’m married to the idea that you were so desperate to be townread that even I could see it plainly written in your posts. And you achnowledged it. It’s just really suspicious to me that any one townie is so scared to be read as evil and die when you really shouldn’t be if you know you’re actually good.

Yes where are you going with this

Catbae has at least been trying to play the game, Okazo is literally a ghost and if I’m correct on “the gamestate is comfy for wolves or they’re doing nothing” then okazo feels like they fall into category B. there are likely more wolves in category A than B but I can paranoia kill people I trust after killing the ones that seem simpler to solve first.

It wouldn’t be as simple as saying because they’re voting you and you are now revealed town they are likelier to be evil. It would depend on when they placed their vote and what their reasoning was, I’d say maybe one between tutuu/catbae. Catbae is obvious why, if you’re town then the % chance for the other wagons to be wolves in my awesome world where we’re definitely voting a wolf goes up, and catbae is one of them. Tutuu because they kinda pushed catbae with a dogpile ping and now they’re just here, on you, for some reason.

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Okay so after meta-diving O.kazo/Marluna I kinda feel like they’re town?

Maybe this is low sample size/maybe I’m not using meta in a really good way, but I looked over a town game and a wolf game and the thing that’s giving me pause is that in the town game, almost of of their posts were focused on mechanics (in a essentially vanilla game, no less) but in Marluna’s wolf game, they actually played the game conventionally and endgamed as wolf.

Town game: Ice Cream Mafia
Wolf game: April Showers the 3rd

In this game they spend their first couple of posts talking about mech, but then transition over to playing more conventionally (giving reads and impressions on gamestate). More specifically, read their progression this game on Leafia and Frostwolf - she spends multiple posts shading them and had a very clear agenda as to why she was wolfreading them.

Like if you read the quotes from this game, she’s asking more inquisitive questions (did this wallpost have anything useful behind it, why do you scumread Star, do you have any reasoning behind your vote) and also pushed Leafia and Frostwolf in that game in a very agenda-d way.

If you do a quick skim of her town game (Ice Cream Mafia) all she does is talk about mech and had to be prompted into even voting Hippo.

In this game I feel like they are more to their town meta than their scum meta. Her vote on MKP this game feels more like “I noticed something wolfy that he said so I’m voting him”. It doesn’t feel agenda’d compared to the buildup to it as their pushes on Leafia and Frostwolf in her wolf game.

She is similarly just talking about mech this game but I feel like that’s not alignment indicative for her. Meanwhile I feel like town Marluna is much more float-y and I think she’s been playing more towards her town meta this game.

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Okay, thanks. I don’t think the positioning myself to look townie is super alignment indicative for me as Wisp pointed out, but I understand why my constant prodding of others to provide reads on me specifically can look bad.


I think that Chomps, Hippo, Altina, Frostwolf, and Memeking are town.

I still believe that snowe and catbae are wolves.

My gut is screaming at me that there is one wolf between (tutuu/May) and (snowe/Rue). I dislike how tutuu and May have been treating my slot today (vacillating between town and wolf on me, both of them largely hand-waving my posts as “a good mafia player can post all what he’s posted” rather than trying to directly engage or ask questions to me).

Rue has been treating me in a very hands off sort of way and is playing with her hands very close to her chest as to what she thinks about my alignment, which I don’t know what to make of.

I think that Kazo and pandora are LHF town based on the meta dives I’ve done, same with Wazza. Gummy is town I think for actually taking a look at my meta plus a bunch of other townie tonal tells, if they’re a wolf then they’ve played a really good game so far.

Ruby not having any sort of read on me or catbae despite both of us being in the hot seat is confusing me to me despite all of her posts being very conciliatory.

I still don’t know how to place Jarek despite interacting with him a lot. Relm hasn’t posted. Ash is like, maybe town but has not been the focus for today. I liked his engagement with Wisp wrt my alignment but I could be pocketed here.

Treat the above as my legacy if I get mischopped here, I’ll be around for EoD most likely but isn’t a guarantee.

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