Please make one
I played only two games with Illwei one where she was scum one where she was town but I feel like Illweiās meta has been to start out solvy as scum become less solvy later on while as town she starts out meh but becomes more solvy late game
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(Quietly borks in a friendly way that isnāt intended to be unfun nor stop you from wanting to play)
but this looks like a wolf oriented read in almost every situation and probably spews marshall v
Either that or itās intended to make me specifically think it spews marshall v given itās like 1:1 how Arete treated me in poisonā¦
But I think 95/100 times it just a) is a wolf oriented read and b) spews marshall v
Anyway Iāll not be responding to your posts and giving this type of commentary until tomorrow irl (unless requested) just so I donāt Poo Poo on your parade
Glhf <3
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All top wagons areā¦ Nulls so better than before?
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What specifically would make us antiteamed as opposed to both uninformed of each otherās alignment? If weāre just v/v we wouldnāt know anything about each otherās alignment. If weāre w/v, one of us would presumably know the otherās alignment.
You saying you think weāre antialigned implies that you think one of us knows what the other is, but not vice versa. So which of us is it?
Same impression here, I didnāt find any of his responses to my questions or the brief amount of live interaction we had to feel wolfy. Just felt like normal Squirrel, GTH town but it isnāt a strong read since I havenāt ISOād him.
I want to make the most of this post so imma scroll up and skim stuff and reply to whatever I thing warrants a comment. Sorry itās gonna be in backwards order lol.
Tbf this is specifically because you claimed to be my roommate and it launched a discussion on whether I usually have a roommate or whether it was a mason soft, so at best itās harmless and it was a funny claim, and at worst I got chained to a wolf which I knew was a risk. Itās true, though, weāre roommates for the time being 
Interesting that you vote me without really saying too much, unless I just completely missed your case against me.
@Kyubey, did you ever find the answer to your question in my iso? Cause I definitely discussed it, and frankly, Iām tired of wasting separate posts to repeat something I already said just because people donāt actually want to read whatever Iāve typed because itās word salad or whatever.
I havenāt even been wallposting in this game (up to this point, at least) because people complain about reading my wallposts, and become too lazy to read them. But thereās a post limit here so itās actually very annoying that people have asked me to repeat myself like 5 times for every question that arises. I guess there are so many posts in this game that I canāt blame them for backreading, but the answers to pretty much all of their questions are in my iso.
You asked me why I thought Arete was RTing and if you had ISOād me, you wouldāve seen that I said they had such weird takes (on Marl sounding flat, on JC borking in the thread when itās a catgirl game, on JC saying you were an NPC slank vig, on me sounding robotic, I forget what else) that I thought maybe they were just testing peopleās reactions - because people definitely reacted to Areteās takes. But Areteās reaction to Marl saying he wasnāt devoid of energy was just to entirely rescind that take, which seemed hurried and panicky like āoops, I shouldnāt have said thatā in a kind of wolfy way. So no, I donāt think any of that was an RT anymore, but neither do I think it comes from town unless Arete was just having a rough start.
Since Iām on the topic of Arete I kinda think if Arete isnāt a wolf, I should be looking at Marshal and Vulgard since probably at least one of them is a wolf (just by interactions and reads on each other; Iām less interested in looking at them before Arete)
Iām too lazy to keep scrolling up and responding to random stuff and I gotta get stuff done so Iāll save my response till someone else has a direct question for me.
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I think the dude is mafia and the consensus is wrong
I feel like wolves are in control of the thread and that worries me immensely
I often have this feeling and am correct, especially on day 1, but nobody ever listens to me
I think Arctic is mafia because I havenāt agreed with any of his pushes (I think Arete and Wazza are town), because I donāt think heās been super villagery (I have high standards for him because I think heād try hard here as either alignment but as town heād be an easier townread), and because he called me w/w with windward for me calling her a potential like pocketer, which is what she was trying to do to both me and Arctic in the clonedvitational where me and arctic masoned
Arctic claiming he couldnāt have known what I was referring to is something I donāt believe at all and it felt like a snap response to discredit me; the only pause I have is that he didnāt actually push me harder for it, but started reconsidering my slot instead, which Iām not sure how to feel about. I actually kinda see why he would call my like-pocket statement about WWA W/W, but it feels like a bizarre interpretation coming from him, when he should know Iām stating something that could very well be true; at the very least, it felt openly uncharitable. I probably overstated the importance of that response in my snap reaction earlier, but I do think itās AI
thereās a part of me that wonders if I just have a terrible handle on the game, wolves are something like Wazza/Wisdom/Arete + a few others, and Iām wolfsiding hard; in that world Arctic would probably be town as well
I feel like I canāt do anything about the wagons, either, because everybody is throwing susses or wolfreads on me for going against the grain - which I donāt think has ever been alignment indicative for me, but I guess people arenāt obligated to know that
if I were to continue with my worldview, I would name people like Marshal/JC/Arctic/maybe some overlooked yet sufficiently loud slots and have been receiving no serious scrutiny but still have made significant pushes on people I townread, like nightingale
marshal/JC are probably not W/W because of how marshal framed her read on me, but both their reads on me have been bad, and I have consistently disagreed with their direction
that said, at this point Iām inclined to just sheep the consensus - and if itās wrong, Iāll collectively blame all of you for not listening to me, even though Iām trying my best to be towny so I donāt get eternally tinfoiled again like in the last fol invitational
the ādonāt get tinfoiledā part didnāt exactly work so far, given the sheer number of wolfreads, wolfleans, and/or w/w pairings Iāve been a part of, so Iām honestly rather tilted but Iām trying not to allow it to affect my gameplay
if youāre still unwilling to pay any amount of attention to my takes, iāll level with the consensus for a day phase or two, and if youāre wrong, then maybe youāll listen to me
the legacy of my worldview is this: arete/wisdom/wazza all town and this direction is a huge mistake. JC/marshal has a wolf but probably not together. arctic is probably a wolf, nightingale/moonwink probably contains at least one because I think both have been decidedly not towny and yet have caught no scrutiny (watch this be deemed ādenying townreads on villagersā again).
Alana/kyubey/is are the most noteworthy lowposters because they genuinely havenāt done much to convince me theyāre town; alana is the closest to achieving that, but I still think their ISO so far is within the wolfrange of someone with 50 games of experience. I still havenāt metadived Alana because I kept getting distracted by the people here (for obvious reasons) and I later got too tired to think about this game. Iāll do that today.
laserpointer/millium/hippo/bladescape/marl/probably nutella/maybe mistyx still town. wwa Iām currently still conflicted about, I think she could swing either way, but I like the fact she actually seems to be listening to me. could be a pocketing wolf, could just be a villager, I canāt tell for sure.
squirrel and illwei. illwei I think should be within both her ranges, while squirrelās wolfrange I simply donāt know. squirrelās play has been unimpressive, but Iāve seen him get pushed for being unimpressive when he was town. itās possible heās just another wolf target.
if this post doesnāt convince you Iām town and trying to solve the game, then I donāt know what will. I joked about having an infinite wolfrange earlier, but I donāt actually think itās infinite.
if you have any questions, ask. for now, iām still going to keep my vote on arctic. itās possible that iām embarrassingly wrong and me projecting these amounts of confidence has been a colossal, thread-derailing mistake; itās possible that the consensus is correct and Iāve been actively wolfsiding. in that case I will take a fat L and I will never project confidence again because it simply has never worked for me.
the only reason Iām projecting such confidence now is because I have a sinking feeling about the consensus being wrong, particularly since I havenāt agreed with any cases about the three main suspects. so if thereās anything I really want you to remember - especially if Iām right on arete/wisdom/wazza - itās this post. wolves will probably kill me at some point if Iām right, but not if Iām still a common wolfread, so.
letās not do this anymore.
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this is literally the exact opposite of what i think.
adding squirrel to my wolf pile from the post above.
THANK YOU
SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS AND ITāS THE THREADāS TOP WOLF
i think maybe the squirrel wagon is okay but everything else is terrible
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iām really just making myself look like the biggest clown of the internet if the above post is wrong lmao
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Unless Iām entirely misreading the room then this looks like agenda imo.
(For when re-visiting vulgard post Arete/wisdom flips re: my reads list to revisit vulgard)
Still, donāt know vulgards townrange so there is at least some doubt there
Anyway Iām off to let others roam the thread again so I donāt suck the oxygen outta everyone Iām wolf reading lol
lmao you are just a wolf get out of here.
I think Squirrel is probably town (realistically most my actual read here is ānone of the things heās being wolfread for are wolfy for himā but I do also think he is saying the things he would say as town, and that as a wolf he would not be successfully doing that)
Okie
Bork
there is no way villa jc looks at that entire post, singles out a small part of it (one i feel strongly about, but a small part nonetheless), then goes like āthis is agendaā and disregards the entire post based on that one segment.
jc is a wolf. if heās a villager, heās the most stubborn and tunnelvisioned villager i have ever played with, and i have experienced villa Phighter.
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Wdym?
Iāve floated putting you outside of my immediate poe to see what Wisdom and Arete flip.
Have you read the thread?
i have. your reaction to my post just now especially doesnāt make sense if youāre trying to re-evaluate me. if you still had me as bottom of the barrel iād actually think itās not wolfy because at least itās consistent.
the calling of my three reads āagendaā here screams āshoving this back into poe before it clears itself.ā
how would wisdom and arete flips change your read on me?
Okie. Seems like you just want to joust because I actually have been consistentā¦ that I want to see what Arete and Wisdom flip before dealing with you.
Yw to vote me/do whatever/interrogate/implore others to wolf read me but I donāt think itās beneficial to engage further rn if your response is that
Glgl!
stop pretending you ever gave me any room for fair engagement this entire game sir