There's No Freaking Way I'll Be Your Mason! Unless... -- Day 3 (10/14)

[iamagummybear]

i read the jason’s points and i don’t get why it’s sus lol

he clearly thought willow was towny lol

u really gonna try to kill someone for being wrong on a player

[meow]

you’ve played w ish before right, time to ask for your read on her too! (warning: you’re getting sucked back into mafia)

[iamagummybear]

i thought you typoed and it was wish and i was like who is wish

nah im 1782 messages behind and it’s staying that way

[meow]

me when I just ask gummy for reads on every player in the game, actually

[iamagummybear]

idk what to make of her

im more cautious now

i keep my cards close to my chest

[iamagummybear]

i think her begging people to meta was like interesting

i think on most people i would say it was towny but i am more skeptical of ish

[meow]

I am inclined to think willow was being truthful in terms of what she thought the game setup would be

she believed in about 5 town prs and less likely masons than something like a masonizer

maybe masonizer happened last night and we are doing great and have hidden masons now (or it landed on ybw)

I think probably the town pr read is at least somewhat influenced by whatever roles mafia have, but I don’t know how to actually back solve here. the masonizer vs masons thing I think is more likely design meta spec

back to why willow didn’t just claim tracker: I’ve been trying to come up with plausible reasons:

• willow was supposed to die - seems unlikely, plus I think ash is independently towny plus I feel like willow should have tried to bait out an investigative instead
• bodyguard is a marginally less suspicious claim for staying alive than a tracker - I like this as a reason, but I don’t think it’s compelling enough to be the whole reason?
• there is also less potential cc/clash in terms of power for bodyguard vs tracker I think - not that sold on this because the difference isn’t that big
• she’d have to come up with tracker results each night which could be potentially clearing townies after she died - maybe, but two easy fixes: claim xshot + claim a track on a teammate?

tracker is such an easy claim and it would have fit with the clearing pr role that was being floated for willow’s posts + almost certainly let her survive another day. so yeah I guess I’m w hippo in that I don’t understand why

[iamagummybear]

plz kill her

[meow]

am I pinging you or something

[jason.mrrown]

day 1

@Aleph

white boy

soul read each other v?

@Aleph

hippo lock v

ash lock v

hang jason and dia and call it a day ill take my best town award in advance tia

@Aleph

you should consider it, you’re putting on some good ass wolf theatre with alexis right now

Shending/Alexis

@Alexis2282AE

Hmm.

@Shending

frozen in wolfchat? hullo

@Alexis2282AE

I believe that you would be the wolf for anyone in this scenario, not me.

@Alexis2282AE

Out of the two of us.

@Shending

I’m afraid I’ve been checkmated

I actually thought this was way more awkward on alexis’s end, but this is a fine read.

@Aleph

barwe v

ash v still i trust my white boy soul read

meow v

idc shoot shendigs ten times out of ten

alexis ehhhhhhh i’ll judge them(?) on how their(?) pushes flip, if they’re(?) flipping towns with it hang hang hang hang hang hang i want them(?) as a wind chime

hippo locking in as v

willow is willow posting i’ll just pray she catches a night kill

chomps fuck you chomps i hate reading you (i love you)

dia v

@Aleph

it’s mostly just him finding people V pretty easily

i know as wolf i tend to just v read everybody and just let town self devour eachother

just he’s doing the shit i would do as wolf yknow

meow did point this out earlier but this also stood out to me, where ish has some townreads, some nulls, and only one push

@Aleph

ash is soul white boy v read i am not changing that from wahtever

hippo is hippo posting as i expect from him motherfucker hasn’t changed in a decade it feels like

barwe was v at time move to null now that more time ahs past

dia is still posting as a v

@Aleph

you are skirting alng the edges which is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

eye on you JAAAAAAAAAAAASON

@Aleph

shending stil want him dead want his family dead want his house burnecd to the ground i wanna pis son his grave

youbie im giving more time to i didn’t liek the slot prior to the dog’s replace in and kinda dislike her push on me for being kinda lazy (yeah wow ish was around for a couple hours at sod and pushed the guy she found wolfy wowee)

@Aleph

still on sendig vanity may or may not be around for eod

the main problem I have with ish, and why I think she’s so wolfy, is that there’s barely any progression behind these posts. most of her reads don’t really change significantly. i also dislike their sole wolfread on shending, there’s no attempt to reevaluate there even tho shending has posted plenty of content. they feel like a wolf with a really narrow focus whose reads are frozen. ik ish makes gutreads as her playstyle so there’s some allowance for a lack of progression but like… the zero reevaluation on shending goes beyond that imo.

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day 2

@Aleph

largely was just jamming a finger into a wound to see how you’d flail

flailed like a towny and alexis/ybw flipping V locked it in 100%

already at eod1 as you know i was like “yeah this shits done for now”

from the way ish describes her approach to shending d1 this reads like she’s reaction testing shending, which I think would describe her calling alexis/shending w/w at sod1. However she continues to push shending for the entirety of d1 which is beyond a reaction test

@Aleph

dia/ash/shen

maybe barwe maybe meow

@Aleph

will be casing jason probably once i finish up

again, ish’s worldview is woefully narrow today. She’s solely focused on me and hasn’t taken the time to really update her d1 reads thoroughly at all. I’ve given her space for most of d2 so she can solve in case I’m wrong but outside of her case on me it hasn’t really happened.

There's No Freaking Way I'll Be Your Mason! Unless... -- Day 2 (12/14)

anyways really really don’t like jason weird with how he handled willow prior to her being CCd by ash, don’t remember how weird but looking back in a world where he’s paired with willow is #worthit his pushes just feel very opportunistic, im a LHF have been since day one and the fervor at which he’s pushing it seems odd, going to go back to see if he’s doing this with anybody else will go into further depth later when i’m not splitting my attention from thread watching

There's No Freaking Way I'll Be Your Mason! Unless... -- Day 2 (12/14)

All of Jason's Soft Defenses of Willow

[Included him reacting to the Ash CC so you can’t claim im taking out of context]

The way he handled Willow day one is extremely suspect, it’s all light defense and redirecting votes away from the now flipped wolf. I do not think a town member makes defenses in the way Jason did of a at the time unflipped wolf. VOTE: Jason Will dig into more Jason stuff later but this is just a preview something something surgical summer pusha t reference something so…

i’m sorry, but these cases are not really doing it for me. naturally i’m biased, but they feel really shallow, they don’t feel like they come from town invigorated by a d1 wolf flip. granted it did seem like ish had more to say but didn’t get a chance to send it

tldr ish’s narrow tunnel on shending w no reeval combined with her frozen reads is wolfy and her lack of solving and worldview is uninspiring

VOTE: ishmael

[iamagummybear]

jason you’re snowing me

i hope ur not mafia

[meow]

I’ve got to learn this “model un” style posting…

[jason.mrrown]

one day

but not today

[meow]

you make me feel better about voting ishmael

curse my recency bias…

okay I sleep for real jason mrrown you should too

I’m going to assume gummy will switch her vote to one that will matter later in the day (unless people jump on my wagon I guess)

we’ll see how tomorrow goes I suppose

[Frostwolf103]

@meow

:( I don’t know

are you still scumreading frost?

@Chomps

i haven’t read today

Okay I think you’re next after Jason

[Frostwolf103]

@meow

I don’t knowwwwwwwww

I was sussing and then he posted a vc with colored names, and I went “okay he’s frostposting again, I’m pocketed”

I feel like generally there is much less solving activity happening with him than I am accustomed to, but this game is not frieren-levels active

the direct/blunt tone feels good still, there’s been a bunch of posts I’ve enjoyed the phrasing of, might be nai

no one can read frost it seems, no one really wants to discuss him :( I do feel like frost probably becomes a bit more readable later in the game, but still. where are you?

and I just remembered I was planning on being silly with arrow diagrams and ran out of time to do that tonight

You are not discussing with me, huh. I think that is the problem

[Frostwolf103]

You can’t honestly say I am still assertive,

[jason.mrrown]

@Frostwolf103 what are your reasons for voting me

[Frostwolf103]

You are sussing Ishmael for the wrong reason

[Frostwolf103]

I figured something about her, I am not going to reveal unless she’s willing to answer that.