AI Upick Mafia GAME THREAD - ENDGAME - JOAKIM WINS

[Magnus]

Secondly, I believe Wind was attacked last night. I cannot elaborate further on why I believe this.

[Frostwolf103]

Yeah that makes more sense than trying to attack Marluna to lift off the restrictions when its pretty clear its not possible to make such attempt and Marluna acts that attack happened to her.

[Magnus]

@Zone_Q11

So, it turns out that I got roleblocked.
…I am expecting more roleblocks to hit me.

Zone was roleblocked by Zorvo on the first night. He (Zorvo) also tried controlling Lol into Gorta; Whysper into Zone; and Marluna into Blizer on the same night. Aelin’s Witch Bolt was used on Marluna, but that could mean anything.

Frost looks like he’s pushing in bad faith (as of N2).
Whysper is vaguely villagery.
Wind is rand>v socially, even ignoring the modconfirm (which is real, for the record; they aren’t fake wishes).
Eevee should be put under a microscope.
Jarek had “reacted poorly to previous pushes in a way that was indicative of a scum not wanting to interact with thread”, but I’m wishing to trust the scan. I can just complain about bastard info otherwise.

Town should look at Blizer/Wazza interactions.
Jaiden is a villager.
Lol is probably town.
Marluna feels scummy.
Killing Gorta was speculated to buff the scumteam in some shape or form.

[Magnus]

The read was of a Frost/Marluna/??? scumteam, which I won’t take credit for, but I think enough has been seen to disprove that notion.

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

Frost looks like he’s pushing in bad faith (as of N2).

In Tomb of Horror?

[Magnus]

Everything keeps coming around back to Eevee and nobody wants to hear it.

@Frostwolf103

In Tomb of Horror?

Just in general.

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

Just in general.

Yeah well, the opportunity doesn’t present itself and I have paid attention on Marluna’s posts to warrant push to get her executed.

[Magnus]

I’m trying to find Marluna’s ISO to see if she’s expressed any reads of her own throughout the game at all.

[Frostwolf103]

Eevee says he isn’t defending Marluna, rather said 'Am I?" and just being confused.

@eevee

I am assuming they misunderstood “kill restriction” as “mafia can’t kill”.

I assume it’s more of a “if noone is lynched, your kill only works on pacifist” or “only works on non-voters”.

Kill tonight still urrelevant, they said its AFTER no lynch. And theee was one yesterday.

I don’t know, I don’t think I dont wanna go with his explanation on how kill restriction works.

[Frostwolf103]

@Host_Account_3

Aelin (5): Whysper, WindwardAway, eevee, Jarek, Movie_Joker
eevee (3): Magnus, Zone_Q11, Jaiden
Marluna (1): Frostwolf103
Jaiden (1): Gorta
nolynch (1): Marluna

Not Voting (4): Aelin, lol, Wazza, Atlas

@Host_Account_3

Aelin (5): Whysper, WindwardAway, eevee, Jarek, Movie_Joker

@Host_Account_3

nolynch (1): Marluna

Not Voting (4): Aelin, lol, Wazza, Atlas

@eevee

I am assuming they misunderstood “kill restriction” as “mafia can’t kill”.

I assume it’s more of a “if noone is lynched, your kill only works on pacifist” or “only works on non-voters”.

Kill tonight still urrelevant, they said its AFTER no lynch. And theee was one yesterday.

Hmmm? Nah that can’t be. Mafia can easily loophole that ability just fine.

@Host_Account_3

nolynch (3): Marluna, eevee, Jaiden
Jaiden (2): Wazza
Zorvo (3): Magnus, Zone, Blizer
WindwardAway (1): WindwardAway
Wazza (1): lol
Unvote (1): Jarek

Marluna said that Zorvo is not caused by mafia attack, so is Marluna now going to point out that you are roleblocked from performing mafia factional kill, Jarek?

Honestly this spins my head, too complex.

[Frostwolf103]

Honestly, I am surprised Marluna didn’t thought of that one.

[Frostwolf103]

@Marluna

I whish my ability would be that useful.

Yeah no kidding

[Magnus]

@Marluna

VOTE: Gorta

It’s either mafia or cultist…

This should be good for everyone. (Except for Gorta’s team obviously)

Given Marluna’s later pacifist reveal, for her to be consistent that no-killing is better before her claim she would’ve been testing for reactions here, but she never really followed up on this vote or anything. I’ve already explained why I didn’t like this vote, FMPOV.

@Marluna

Also my role submission is hidden in the OP.

Where is it hidden in the OP?

@Marluna

VOTE: Jaiden
Policying for policying.

Omgus vote, doesn’t mean much.

@Marluna

@Jarek

I bet the dude who has the Jenny bot is evil

I can confirm…
Jenny is crazy.

She killed me like three times already.

@Marluna

As far as I concerned it’s rather a side-roleplaying thing than an actual killing mechanic…

She is saying one thing, but doing something extremely different in the process…

I don’t know what should I do.

Nobody else has accounted for the Jenny bot, we don’t know what purpose it fulfilled. It’s kinda wacky.
Maybe there’s a Jekyll and Hyde thing going on where Jenny is Marluna’s evil alter ego.

@Marluna

I have a very strong belief Zone is town.

I shouldn’t be able disclose why though.

This was correct.

@Marluna

I can tell you that Gorta’s and Zone’s rituals are different in concept.

This is also presumably correct.

@Marluna

VOTE: nolynch

This is what really got the ball rolling.

@Marluna

I doubt eevee would ever vote nolynch without my initial nolynch input.

But who knows…

@Marluna

I won’t be here at EoD

So

VOTE: nolynch

Not wanting to execute for two days in a row… I don’t recall this happening in Love is War (correctly voted a wolf on the first day iirc), and while she did no-vote on the first day of ‘80s Wild Overhaul, she was claiming she lost her vote during odd-nights so it was in service of her role. So’s this, but I don’t know if Marluna was surrender the keys to the kingdom for the sake of making herself death-immune. Unless she’s that afraid of Joker.

@Marluna

I’m a pacifist…

@Marluna

Btw.

Going for no-lynch is beneficial for me. And if I understood my ability correctly mafia knows that too. (This is the main reason i’m saying Zone is town.)

The connection to a no-exe and Marluna, from what I think she’s said, is that she can’t be killed if nobody is executed, but someone correct me if I’m wrong. Claiming that “Mafia knows going for a misexe is beneficial” when you later said Mafia had an nk restriction while alive (unrelated ability) though… if they knew you were immune to death without an execution, why would they target you ever? Did you mess up your wording, or…?

@Marluna

Side info: it is very likely Zorvo wasn’t a mafia kill.

But since I can’t say it for 100% i didn’t come out with it so far.

Who else could’ve killed Zorvo N1?

@Marluna

Mafia has a night kill restriction while I’m alive. (But they was a possibility they didn’t know it comes from me until now.)

And this is the crux. We really have no way to prove this one way or another.

Marluna hasn’t posted a readlist.

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus Just to keep in mind, that’s from Eevee’s perspective with ‘only works with non-voters kill restriction’ probability

[Magnus]

You saw Jarek being roleblocked?

[Frostwolf103]

Nah, never did say that. I am trying to understand what Eevee want to tell me.

[Frostwolf103]

Concept between what Marluna and Eevee claims how it works, are not the same.

[Frostwolf103]

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Hmmm? Nah that can’t be. Mafia can easily loophole that ability just fine. Marluna said that Zorvo is not caused by mafia attack, so is Marluna now going to point out that you are roleblocked from performing mafia factional kill, Jarek? Honestly this spins my head, too complex.

[Magnus]

Since I’m laying my cards out on the table, I may as well say I did not receive a 1-Shot neighbouriser ability.

[Frostwolf103]

Hmm I see.