[GAME THREAD 6/13] Risky Light Game: Featuring Rain - Day 4 - Mafia wonnered

[Leafia]

I never said I scumread you. I’m townleaning you as well slightly.

[Frog]

Pssst

FOR ILLWEI ONLY

[Leafia]

Hmmm, this is good reasoning honestly and to be honest, I don’t think you’re wrong. Now I’m already at almost 30 posts already so I’m going to head out and save the rest of my posts until later. Good night everyone.

[Trochilidae]

@Leafia

Top scumlean right now…hmmmm… honestly Professor with how hard he’s whiteknighting me. It seems like an attempt to pocket me to me. I want him to explain his read on me before I decide to vote him or not.

has
has that not been what he’s been doing
would you do me a favor and read their iso then come back to me again

@Illwei

The townread on frog is bad from leafia imo

My read on leafia was a read based on how theyre playing specifically, and frog’s read was a generalized read easily made at the beginning that can be used incredibly easily by wolves. Leafia townreading frog over me there is lol

nobody asked because apparently i only exist in leafias eyes but i like this from you too
analyzing the strength of two townreads on the same person and the thought behind them like this is a villagery thought

am i sure what to make of leafia rn?
nope but i’ll keep poking her
get back to me in a couple hours

@Professor

How exactly was wolfreading Leafia controversial? Two people before them expressed wolfreads on the slot before them…

okay i literally just typed to leafia that she needs to read and here i am
if this is true it’s my bad yours just stuck in my head

@Professor

Honestly? I think you sound deflated.

deflated? what exactly do you mean by this and is it an observation or a read
noted on the non w/w read though i’d agree on your point there

[BradLand]

I thought the immediate list that takes stances on player alignments with unfiltered thoughts and questioning from Frog came from town.

Illwei also going unfiltered and attacking early comes from town!Illwei.

Professor I could get the thoughts that he was chainsaw defending Leafia to pocket her, but the way he did it with thread state reads and questioning those that are scumreading her but outing opinions on the answers that didn’t sound agenda oriented was a very good look for him and showed that he was attempting to solve rather than blindly attack. So leaning town for him as well.

No opinion on Trochi yet because I haven’t read all of his posts thoroughly.

[Aelin]

@Trochilidae

i figure a quick lil introduction is in order so hi my name is felix i go by he/him i’ll respond to both felix and trochi (trochi is universal all will respond to that dw)
i’m the dude who most of you know and also the dude from yesterday so yep that’s fun
important note: i will not be wasting time and posts to respond to any questions that should’ve been asked yesterday (i will if necessary ofc but don’t make that your focus please)
but hell yeah i’m super excited to play with y’all (i am slightly rusty but give me a day or so and i’ll be self voting and ate’ing just like normal)

Hello, Felix.
On that note,

@Trochilidae

anyways bitches get ready to
ruuuumbleeeeeeee

Forced.

@Professor

@Illwei

Leafia is probably a wolf

Probably not. Why do you think she is a wolf?

@Professor

Leafia thinking that the read wasn’t serious is mildly villagery. A wolf is more likely to think that accusations against them are genuine, because they are correct.

@Professor

I’m concerned because I think Brad and Frog are unlikely to both be wolves due to the timing and reasoning of their Leafia pushes coinciding yet completely ignoring the other’s push. This means that there is at least one villager pushing on Leafia for something that is NAI for her.

@Professor

@Frog

Why does it feel like you’re white knighting Leafia here?

As of her latest string of posts, I officially am. I have no way of proving that I have the authority to be sheeped on this player, all you can take is my word for it, though I am pretty confident they are town.

Professor’s defense of Leafia feels unnaturally strong, especially since I don’t really think Leafia has done anything especially remarkably towny as of yet.

@Professor

Your choice of word “could” in particular looks like you are trying to frame Leafia’s behaviour as wolfy without really believing it.

This feels particularly nitpicky.

@Professor

The reasoning is backwards. How would she act differently as a comfortable villager compared to a wolf pretending to be comfortable?

However, this is a decent argument.

@Frog

My theory is that wolves are more likely to be present at start of day than not, so I believe that the following group contains probably at least two wolves.

If you have anything to back this up, then sure. For now this seems like baseless speculation and ultimately not very useful. Reads are meh. Feels like they’re trying a bit too much to make reads, however I can’t discern if it’s AI rn.

@Frog

/vote Leafia

@Leafia
GG your game is done

Theatrical. The way this is done indicates that it’s done purely for a reaction, but the follow-up doesn’t seem to stick to this line of reasoning.

@BradLand

But the fact that she’s reacting to every single little thing, especially things like Cloned saying "first’ which is something he does every game and she’s probably seen as well, is not a good look.

Agreed.

@BradLand

The numbering of the posts could just be a thing that looks pro-town in a vacuum to cover up anything else that they’re doing.

… somewhat agreed.

@Leafia

a slightly too friendly tone like he’s trying to make himself liked

NAI

@Trochilidae

do you find this villagery only because it’s defending you or do you have an actual reason

good thought

/vote Professor
defense of Leafia looks like it comes from TMI rather than natural thought

[Host_Account_2]

Voted	Voters	Votes
Bradland	Illwei	1/7
Illwei	Bradland	1/7
Leafia	Frog	1/7
Professor	Aelin	1/7
Not Voting	clonedcheese, Squirrel2412, Magnus, Leafia, Gorta, EliThePsycho, Professor, thepigeonnyc, Trochilidae	9

— Insanity
(Hey I am doing this for you Atlas)

[Trochilidae]

@Aelin

Forced

i do what i want
but hi lin

@Aelin

Professor’s defense of Leafia feels unnaturally strong, especially since I don’t really think Leafia has done anything especially remarkably towny as of yet.

well
could you help me with my earlier question about leafias town games so i can make my own assessment then or if you can’t do you have a sparknotes version

[Frog]

I think you come off as blunt and harsh?

It’s mildly Towny tbh

For my theories, imagine they have no basis at all and I’m just pressuring at random to stir the pot and get reads, same result, same same.

Also I might join you on professor but I don’t want to let go of Leafia yet, there’s this thing they’re doing that’s trying to ascribe reasoning to every player’s action as though it justifies someone as being town but like, that makes zero sense to me. I don’t need any reason to vote anyone or do anything. It’s just a jarring mindset that doesn’t sit with me. So yeah, maybe join you on Professor but… Leafia still isn’t right in my stomach feels.

ALSO

Hello :)

[Aelin]

you know this is like
a new site right?
i dont have a link to anything
i think anything relating to postcount is fallacious and im not going to bother with it

[Aelin]

Dear Frog,

Hello.

Sincerely,
Aelin

P.S. Yeet

[Professor]

@Illwei

My read on leafia was a read based on how theyre playing specifically, and frog’s read was a generalized read easily made at the beginning that can be used incredibly easily by wolves. Leafia townreading frog over me there is lol

I want to say this entitlement is villagery, but depending on the player it is possible that some wolves would expect their posts to be townread over villager posts concerning the same slot, assuming Frog isn’t a wolf with Illwei, which I think is pretty likely because this is a weirdly indirect way of shading a partner.

@Illwei
Do you think highly of your wolfgame?

@Trochilidae

deflated? what exactly do you mean by this and is it an observation or a read

It’s more of an observation, because I don’t know what other factors are affecting this.
You sound more like this:

Rather than this:

@Aelin

Professor’s defense of Leafia feels unnaturally strong, especially since I don’t really think Leafia has done anything especially remarkably towny as of yet.

She hasn’t, really. I am just good at reading this player. I am also experienced with her enough to know that defending her holds little merit to me in comparison to allowing her to get buried. And so I direct this point to you also:

@Professor

I must ask though, why do you think I would be trying to defend and pocket you? As a wolf it would make much more sense for me to allow you to continue receiving pressure, knowing you often implode as either alignment and can easily descend into a point of no return a la Warrior Cats, especially after Frog commented that defending anyone this early is wolfy. Tell me I’m wrong.

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@Aelin

@Frog

/vote Leafia

@Leafia
GG your game is done

Theatrical. The way this is done indicates that it’s done purely for a reaction, but the follow-up doesn’t seem to stick to this line of reasoning.

Villagery insight. I like the way this read hones in on the incongruence of the motivations of the player, though maybe this is just because I like to do a similar thing.

@Trochilidae

well
could you help me with my earlier question about leafias town games so i can make my own assessment then or if you can’t do you have a sparknotes version

I don’t think Leafia has played a postcapped game as a wolf, so there is no real answer to your question from earlier. However, from her previous postcapped games it is clear that she is careless with her postcount as town, therefore it is either NAI or town AI.

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I will be departing for the next few hours. Goodbye.

[Trochilidae]

i was told there were archives
but meh i also wanted recent leafia in general cause i remember that she was known as easy to read but i don’t remember how which is lol

@Professor

It’s more of an observation, because I don’t know what other factors are affecting this.

there are factors
they are nai
but thank you for the mental image

@Professor

I don’t think Leafia has played a postcapped game as a wolf, so there is no real answer to your question from earlier. However, from her previous postcapped games it is clear that she is careless with her postcount as town, therefore it is either NAI or town AI.

thank you for this it’s noted (would’ve wanted just a post cap game in general but still)

[Aelin]

@Professor

I am just good at reading this player.

… yuh-huh. Forgive me for saying ‘no’ to that, but that’s the risk of alt’ing.

@Professor

I must ask though, why do you think I would be trying to defend and pocket you? As a wolf it would make much more sense for me to allow you to continue receiving pressure

Towncred down the line could come very easily. It could also set you up for chainsaws based off of “Leafia was so towny, I told you all this very early. The fact that you still pushed makes you very wolfy.” and gives you a lot of wiggle room.

If I’m really trying to go out there, you and Frog are W/W and trying to make yourselves look unaligned based on taking polarized stances on Leafia so one of you can have major sway in the game no matter what happens afterwards, because if you are experienced with Leafia, you know that as town she tends to gravitate towards following people who are townreading her.

… maybe.

@Trochilidae

i was told there were archives

i dont got em shrug

@Trochilidae

but meh i also wanted recent leafia in general cause i remember that she was known as easy to read but i don’t remember how which is lol

I haven’t played any games in the past few months.

@Trochilidae

(would’ve wanted just a post cap game in general but still)

post capped games arent very common for fol

[Trochilidae]

@Aelin

I haven’t played any games in the past few months.

oh
okay gotcha
okay fuck it if my head doesn’t interfere i’m archives diving tonight i want to be helpful

public note i refuse to read lin early because i’m ALWAYS wrong and it hurts but i’m watching you

[Illwei]

@Professor

Do you think highly of your wolfgame?

Not in the slightest

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Bk is town
Leafia is probably a wolf
Trochi is a wolf
Frog is town
Professor is a wolf

[Gorta]

I see how it is, but it is kind of nice to play on this site again.

[Gorta]

I will likely never reach this post count, so this should be fun

[Frog]

Oh lmfao, are you An_Gorta_Pratai?

Yeah maybe I know more people :P

/VOTE ILLWEI

[Host_Account_2]

Voted	Voters	Votes
Bradland	Illwei	1/7
Illwei	Frog	1/7
Professor	Aelin	1/7
Leafia	Bradland	1/7
Not Voting	clonedcheese, Squirrel2412, Magnus, Leafia, Gorta, EliThePsycho, Professor, thepigeonnyc, Trochilidae	9

— Insanity