Well damn, ok, my bad for heading back to sleep for a few hours.
Didn’t expect to see myself as a main wagon here.
I should be relatively self resolving as a role, I don’t want to say more in case of any claim vigi or whatnot that evils could have.
In nutshell, Silviu head is reading Neon as wolf rather than Zorvo and Achromatic
You got offline raided by sweaty Rust players
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I didn’t vote Olivest at the time because of the fact that I had been asked who I would want to kill today and it was pointed out I was on a slank vote. Which… at the time… Olivest also would have been a slank vote. Hence why I said I would vote Italy out of the current wagons.
Because although I hadn’t fully explained it, Italy was my weakest read out of those I had as a 7.
I personally am more confident on my reads on Zorvo/Atlas and Sylveon there but at the time I made my readslist put Italy tentatively 1 place above many others because I thought they were a bit more towny.
VOTE: Olivest
I would much prefer to wagon this slot. It was a thing for a bit while I was gone. Annoyingly it no longer is, but I think from their entrance this is more likely than any other current wagons to flip as a wolf. And I don’t want to vote Italy here because I do still townread the slot.
Plus some others may know town me vs scum me better.
The fact that you’re looking into a BotF in order to gain traction on my slot being voted is a bit of an oof to me.
I do hope I don’t come across as too hardheaded but I can be that sometimes.
I have not looked at that game but someone said you took a similar tact there and neon requested the link.
Also olivest has at no point imo been a slank vote as they have a lot of posts.
Will let others give thoughts though.
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Think it was jake who said that.
We have 9 hours left, there is absolutely no need for me to self-pres at this time, so instead can we look into other wagons which some of us might be able to agree on? My reads haven’t exactly changed much while others have been posting tbh.
Achro getting paranoia that I’m trying to pocket him is fair and annoyingly I can’t really do much about it rn since it seems he’s got it fairly set in his mind that I’m a wolf because I had the unfortunate circumstance of… voting someone who could be town but was purely for pressure earlier. And hadn’t at the time changed my thing… despite the fact Frost also hadn’t exactly become a more mid-poster either.
Ah I mixed up slank vote, with vanity vote.
That’s my mistake
Frost was both a slank vote and vanity vote.
Olivest was (at the time) a vanity vote but not a slank vote so that’s why I got mixed up.
As for Jake saying I took a similar tact, BotF is… quite different and I had managed to pull the wool over towns eyes by using a purely mechanical reason which ‘proved me’ beyond a shadow of a doubt. It’s very different here in FM since that… basically doesn’t exist. Jake was one of those who bought me hook line and sinker so it’s fair he’s pushing back to that game lol
I can always be convinced but you need to do some convincing or have someone advocate for you.
I dont feel like any vote is a vanity vote if you mean it at this stage tbh.
@Atlas @Zorvo @Sylveon (more precisely the Leafia half)
Heck I’d say @Frostwolf103 probably could a bit too but less so than the former 3.
From games which I have played as town, is this something which is outside of my ‘town meta’
I’m stating that BotF cannot be translated to FM much.
At the time, I was the 1 single player who was not scumread out of my team because I had mechanics which backed up the claim which I ended up sinking into in the end. The rest of my team were basically… outed evil. In the end I decided that in order for us to win, I had to pull out all stops which includes pocketing.
This is very different from this game where it is D1, with probably (in the world I’m evil) 2 other wolves alive and therefore, yes, I do highly dispute it lol.
Ah i see. So it happened but you are saying it isnt applicable here. Jake then is unlikely to be acting in bad faith.
Why did you feel comfortable settling for italy before?
I’ve managed to do well recently and not claim when I’m town (Except in a vanilla game), I’m wanting so hard for me not to really have to this game. So me saying ‘self resolving’ is hopefully gonna be enough.
Because the wagons (Main wagons at least) at the time were Sylveon, Italy or Zorvo/Atlas
I commented specifically “If I had to join a current wagon it would be Italy”
This is me saying that I didn’t necessarily like any of the wagons, but if I was forced GTH to pick, I’d pick Italy.
I townread Zorvo/Atlas and Sylveon moreso.
I will say i rather feel like you put the gun to your own head there a bit quick for my liking.
Do you have qualms with how jake or neon voted you?
Zorvo/Atlas (Confident 7), Sylveon (Slightly less confident than Zorvo but still mid-high confident 7), Italy (Mid confident 7 but could dependent on posts easily become a 6 compared to the other 2)
Jake’s not voting in bad faith, though I think that him trying to vote for me despite things being incredibly different feels a bit meh.
Neon and me haven’t exactly had the best history of reading each other. So I’m not surprised.