One Step From Eden JK9 - Town wins!

[furtiveglance]

You guys wouldn’t vote mafia if they smacked you in the face. You’d say “thanks very much” and “that was completely NAI”

[Magnus]

Here’s an example of VCA being useful, if Brad flips either green or red.

@Host_Account_5

Final VC

BradLand (3): furtiveglance, ElizaThePsycho, IcetFeelsPain
Zorvo (3): May, Jaiden, BradLand
Jaiden (1): Zorvo
furtiveglance (1): Leafia

Not Voting (1): Jarek

Brad self-pressing at the last moment without really appealing to anyone indicates Town had a solid read on him, and the other Mafia is more likely off-wagon.

@Host_Account_5

BradLand (3): furtiveglance, ElizaThePsycho, IcetFeelsPain
Zorvo (3): May, Jaiden, BradLand
Jaiden (1): Zorvo
furtiveglance (1): Leafia

Not Voting (1): Jarek

This, however, would mean Mafia didn’t have a real sense of urgency, and there’s probably at least one wolf on-wagon, but they aren’t both voting together. This is completely made up, but it’s an idea.

[May]

Mafia is a game that involves a lot of facade from both factions. I want to squeeze as much information out of this day as possible, and that usually means pretending to be undecided.

If you sound like you’ve not made up your mind, people will have an opportunity to attempt to convince you of something, and that’s an easy way to find their partners. If you don’t sound like you’ve made up your mind, mafia will shrug, give up, and bus in a way that’s indistinguishable from the rest of the town, because all anybody’s saying is “Brad is policy, he’s outed scum”.

Even if Brad were 100% scum (I don’t think he is), I’d rather create opportunity to have material to analyze and then vote him out than just immediately kill him, so that we can find his buddy.

[Magnus]

@furtiveglance

You guys wouldn’t vote mafia if they smacked you in the face. You’d say “thanks very much” and “that was completely NAI”

I’m not interested in having everyone pile onto Brad for a few reasons.

1. Discussion time. Ending the day early actively hurts Town. Someone will usually die at night, so you’re taking away their time to talk. You’re also taking away possible interactions, or removing time for people to vote, etcetera. If someone doesn’t respond for an entire day, there’s a difference if that day lasted six hours or forty-eight hours.
2. It isn’t fun for the player being executed either.
3. That’s not how I play. You can probably get May to attest to the fact that I only vote when I want to vote.

[May]

Magnus only votes when they want to vote. I vote all the time becuase it’s awesome VOTE: Leafia

[Magnus]

Not Voting (2): ElizaThePsycho, BradLand

@Zorvo

How confident do we think a wolf has [voted]?

Only 2 players left that hasn’t [voted].

How possible do you think it is for BradLand/Eliza to be wolves.
Do you think it’s likely a wolf already [voted], if so do you think we can remove the possibility of that team or no?

[May]

Reporting for plagiarism

[Magnus]

@BradLand

I have May and Jaiden as my townreads.

VOTE: furtiveglance

BradLand (3): Leafia, furtiveglance, Zorvo
Jarek (2): Jaiden, IcetFeelsPain
furtiveglance (1): BradLand

Not Voting (3): May, ElizaThePsycho, Jarek

This could be rule of 3. I don’t know how confident Brad is a wolf, but I don’t think he’d outwardly acknowledge his teammates in such a precarious position. Dunno.

[Magnus]

Hey, it’s my own work. I changed the key details.

[Magnus]

At least one of Leafia or Jaiden is a wolf for being too afraid to face me.

[May]

Jaiden has been asleep since well before you showed up.

[Magnus]

I’m not going to quote everyone’s posts, but Ice has a relatable viewpoint and is perhaps Town for that.

[Magnus]

@May

Jaiden has been asleep since well before you showed up.

Posting to tie postcounts. I’m aware they just weren’t here right now.

[May]

I lied about getting that read list up tonight BTW I got distracted and I gotta go to sleep soon or I’m going to be clowned on relentlessly. My reads on D2s are usually very conditional anyway, though I think it’ll be a good exercise… when I get around to it.

[Magnus]

As Town:

@Leafia

I don’t know how you can possibly be entertaining the possibility that Jaiden is a villager here after Jaiden felt like he was trying to save Kanave and believe me, I’ve seen Zorvo as scum. I’m 97% certain he’s a villager this game. Now to reveal my reads too. I told them to Phraze over the night in case I died but luckily I didn’t die.

As Mafia:

@Leafia

Wait, no deaths?

@Leafia

Bradland was selfpreding Jaiden. That’s a very scummy vote too. VOTE: Jaidrn

Furtive immediately voting Bradland too isn’ t a good look either.

Think this is AI? Leafia had the second response to no deaths as Town.

[Magnus]

I replaced in ~1:30 PM my time.

@Leafia

Going to call it a night now too, so good night everyone.

Leafia went to sleep a few nights ago at ~1:45 PM my time.

@Leafia

Now to head off for a bit to play some Tales of Symphonia Remastered for the Switch.

@Leafia

Going to head out for now for RL too, so talk to everyone more later.

Leafia probably isn’t avoiding the thread.

@Jaiden

whats stopping you from pushing, say, zorvo instead
classic “no hope as a player” zorvo who had pretty much identical actions but you hold in significantly less regards

@Jaiden

so uh
this is a game huh

Jump from 8 AM to ~11:50 PM, is asleep.
Cool, they aren’t just both lurking.

[Magnus]

Summary

@ElizaThePsycho

we want you to ACTUALLY PROVIDE THINGS
that includes me
i will go read now

@ElizaThePsycho

why is furitive already at L-2

@ElizaThePsycho

@furtiveglance

Also, I think Bradland calling every post a shitpost is +scum.

VOTE: Bradland

based read

@furtiveglance

Disagree that Bradland’s reaction was good - angry doesn’t equal town here does it?

agreed

@furtiveglance

As for me not doing anything - I’ve voted. What do you want from me at this stage?

this is his only bad post

@ElizaThePsycho

y’all really voting Furitive for “no content” in the middle of D1 huh

Eliza presumably reads Furtive positively.

@ElizaThePsycho

all vote explanations
okay let’s murder brad
VOTE: BradLand

Given the lack of explanation for this vote, I’m assuming Eliza was joining Furtive on the wagon.

@ElizaThePsycho

if Brad flips wolf this is an opportunistic bus vote

Pairs Brad with Ice.
Leafia liked this post? Does Leafia agree with the read, or was acknowledging the read? I can’t even commit to this without someone calling me crazy for it, and even though they’ll be Mafia I can’t accuse them for doing something NAI. Oh well.

@ElizaThePsycho

(icet you didn’t actually scumread me right)

Why did you care whether or not Ice scumreads you?

@ElizaThePsycho

okay so this is just an opportunistic bus vote, got it

Presumably reads Ice unfavourably.

One Step From Eden JK9 - Day 2 (8/9)

ftr here’s my reasoning for my read on Brad, through a short iso skim: this is in response to what Leafia said about brad i will admit that Leafia’s read on brad is dumb—especially considering she moved immediately to sheeping him—but this seems a little… brash, and over-defensive then again if i remember right that is brad’s personality when playing FM anyways You I would just vote out regardless of what you are because you have no hope as a player. see: this post Brad’s just kinda br…

Finally explains the vote on Brad, and it’s about what I expected.

@ElizaThePsycho

(actually I think that she’s >rand town by virtue of this post)

@Jaiden

nobody has even gave a reason to dislike my slot im not doing this again

every game im in its just “uhhh sure jaiden”
im so sick of this

I seem to remember Jaiden saying a similar thing in Starcraft. Or maybe I said that about Jaiden.

@ElizaThePsycho

self-presing 10s before eod and without comment is ai

This is correct.
Unfortunately I don’t think pointing this out is clearing for Eliza.

[Jaiden]

why are you people making posts now

[Magnus]

You can blame me.

[Jaiden]

okay i will
what the fuck is the votecount