Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

Can’t believe you hate being townread

But uh yeah your execution in that game, at least from where I saw it, was almost all us exploiting the fact that you were tilting other townies. By saying they should be able to read you, that you deserved to be townread, you frustrated them, preventing them from coming to the conclusion that… yeah you were pretty much obvtown. People aren’t rational actors. Mafia is as much a game about appealing to other people, arguing to them, as it is coming to the right conclusions in the first place. You know that. You know much more than me. I just know how I wolfed against you that one time. And that’s how

You were right. About you being obvtown. It just didn’t matter cause people were blinded

This probably isn’t really the place for this it just came to mind and I don’t have much of a filter right now cause sickness. Anyway

They just sound kind of awkward to me, it’s all tone and vibes. They’re clearly supposed to sound spontaneous, and if you’re town, they probably were, but something about them just feels advance-thought-out to me, like you were on edge about what to post.

Hey my mood to reply to things and be active faded. Be active like. tomorrows night. Dunno. See ya then!

ok but like what about them feels awkward?
take a post and point out the words that were awkward, and rephrase it in a way that looks truly spontaneous to you

I’m sorry, professor, if you’ll see my earlier email, I am currently ill from COVID-19 and cannot complete any assignments right now. Please send them to me after class so that I can complete them in my own time.

These are the three posts that stood out to me as awkward. I don’t know how I could rephrase them… they’re just, like. It’s imperceptible. It’s a texture behind your words. It’s all vibes. Subconscious pattern recognition. You feel very pushy about this.

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i can’t give a definitive answer to this because it’s correct and she has the right reasons but i don’t know whether she’d read me well as town because i’ve only played one game where she was town (and i was a wolf). every other game she’s been the wolf and i’ve been town. kinda crazy

yes i do. but i’m familiar enough with may to know that they can fake long explain-y reads as mafia. it’s quite literally their forte as a wolf. previously they couldn’t really fake their all over the place-ness as mafia and it was easy to catch them from how methodical she was playing. but now i’m not so sure how to read her. maybe still from engagement, idk

also I laughed at the uwu’ification of the posts lmao

when was the last time they wolfed

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you

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FAM, I believe? Last time they wolfed in a game with me, at least. The last real game you can backread for real is PAYOR KRC:

My bullshit continuous meta “background thoughts read” on Garfooled is just based off of one… maybe hte firsrt game I played with them where I wolfread them the whole time but managed to find them town later on cause they were just so consistent in their principles. And I’ve extended that into a continuous attempt to read them over many games which I don’t think has failed yet but mostly because I keep randing wolf. In those games.

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rip :(

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When I feel something’s awkward I generally am able to find something specific within the post that made me feel that way, but fair enough.

As for why I’ve been a bit pushy, since the Sorc17er where I had a bad entrance, I’ve been trying to learn what makes a post awkward and avoid that.

May is probably town for thinking this though,
I doubt a wolf with TMI feels these “imperceptible/subconscious” things when they know I’m town.

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Few notes from that game.

  • Gar had these very… the way I mentally visualise it is trying to make reads with a bandsaw, trying to go for these objective “does X do Y as wolf?” “the first X people on this wagon are wolves” kind of… like… avoidance of making the subconscious and subjective calls that townies do.
  • They tried to cast a wide net, reading a lot of people in the game all at once, blocks at a time, rather than being drawn to individuals. A “time to make reads now” brick.
  • Looking at the posts, they also made sure to specify the unsureness of their early reads, something they did here, too. I wanna compare to their towngames. I’m being overly reliant on meta I know this is a flaw but it’s Gaaaar I can’t not try to meta Gar it’s so fun

Cringe. You’re a wolf for saying this

This sounds mean I just hate when people townread me

For the record we both agree with this given we literally banned ourselves from playing games together non-hydra because our personalities Do Not Work for that. We did this a while ago we’ve broken the promise multiple times since and it never goes well. It never goes well

Why? You’re both enjoyable to play with so far TwT

your push on garfooled worries me a bit because the premise being mismatched confidence kinda feels like how you pushed me last game when you were mafia. i don’t really think projecting more confidence than you actually have is necessarily wolf indicative in a vacuum, either. like that’s normally how RVS goes for most people, isn’t it? nobody actually has any idea what they’re doing, and most people’s reads don’t extend beyond a slight gutread one way or the other, but nobody actually expresses them in that way - they express them just like any other read. i seemed confident on cait but i’m not, the reality is i had a read on what they had posted so far and yet i recognized i can only be so confident with it given how little i’m working from, but disclaiming to be extremely not confident didn’t feel very useful at that point

Oh we’re both enjoyable to play with individually we just don’t having to argue with each other like mafia necessitates

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We played mafia together before we were dating. That was fine. It’s just that once you are dating then like. Having to argue with each other. Having conversations while maintaining game integrity. When I was hiding from thread I’d get paranoid and set my Discord status to invisible

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My discord status is always invisible(I’m always paranoid people will catch me slacking)