Kaguya-sama: Love is War Mafia - Game Over - Town & Hitman Win

[Vulgard]

@Jackrito

To see a push on them as only bad faith and not seeing the possibility that it could be just a townie that is wrong which is more likely, because we all lack info and guessing to a degree. This is not a normal reaction in my view.

Zorvo claimed he had a role that could make me self-resolving, yet decided to push me after a person I read village mildly suspected me. Was it really that unjustified to find that suspicious, considering Zorvo’s claim?

@Jackrito

On the Zorvo point I don’t think it is bad to push someone that you have suspicion of

This is an extremely reductive way of framing what I did with Zorvo, and the fact you’re making this the baseline of your push is wolfy. Again, I found Zorvo’s push on me suspicious because he had claimed he could make me self-resolving, yet hopped onto my wagon when suspicion built up on me, seemingly disregarding the fact he could make me self-resolving. He had even named me as someone he’d like to make self-resolving, so it’s not like targeting me wasn’t on his mind. It was.

I think Zorvo’s responses to me just now have made him obvious town, particularly the part where he emulates my townplay (I don’t see a wolf doing that sort of thing), but I think I had good reasons to suspect him. You framing it as “Zorvo was suspicious of Vulgard and Vulgard is pushing him for following up on his suspicions” is complete bad faith.

[Vulgard]

Try not to wagon town!Vulgard day 1 challenge [impossible]

[Vulgard]

Remove Zorvo from my wolfreads and add Jackrito. Glossing over my actual reasons to wolfread Zorvo and instead calling them “pushing Zorvo for following up on his suspicions” doesn’t come from someone who thought about my push for more than five seconds after reading it, unless it’s a misframing on purpose (which I believe it is). Jackrito has 8 years of mafia experience, and that’s more than enough for me to believe that he would actually read what I’m saying as town instead of pushing me on an extremely reductive interpretation that misses my point.

[Vulgard]

@Marluna

You can just ignore Zorvo in the first few days in a game… Your life will be way more easier.

They are either lock town or lock scum around SoD 3 or EoD 3. So no reason focusing on them D1 or D2.

Is there anyone you’d like more attention on? So far you’ve indirectly defended two people and done nothing else. Who are the wolves?

[Jaiden]

My apologies – Business took longer than expected.

[Marluna]

No one.
It’s an atheist game.

[Jaiden]

@mollylikesorigami

uh oh

VOTE: Jaiden

3rd post of the game after 0 content except a small thing about anime gifs at the beginning. How strange.

[Jaiden]

@Jackrito

I can believe them doing this for reactions.

Hello again Jackrito. It has been quite a while, hasn’t it?
Of course I was! Once I’m done reading up I have much to say about that.

[Jaiden]

I find it strange you townread the 3 active players at the beginning of the game for seemingly unimportant actions. This is phrased like you’re stating your reasoning for townreading me, leafia, and acro but then go onto only making a case for acro, when it has already been established that he usually comes across as solvy as scum.

Would you say that acro is your top townread at the time this post was made? If not, who was?

[Jackrito]

I’m not sure how my years of experience is relevant here, especially when you know nothing about me and my success in that time, which is not a lot. This is also yet again deflection play, as with my previous point on your interactions with Zorvo. You see things done on you as bad faith push’s, when it could just be people being wrong like I said before this is overreacting, and that bothers me because it just seems a bit panicked. In my view when someone is town they have a inner confidence because they know they are right and would not have such panic because nothing to hide.

I also talked at length about my view on Zorvo’s push on you making sense to me, even with their supposed role. We clearly have a difference in views how someone should play even if they have a role. They had reasons to push you and did is that not typical play, saying I did not think about anything and just jumped on you also a misframing at least imo.

[Leafia]

Achro, how is oushing me a fine thing to do when I’ve already stated that I’m self resolving? Pushing me is the exact opposite of a fine thing to do. You don’t push someone who claims self resolving. You let them resolve, or at the very least, ask them how they’re self resolving. You don’t continue to push them.

[Jaiden]

@Magnus

@Jaiden

also a good chance of 2+ scum in vulgard/leafia/achro

HMM.
Vulgard has no reason to agree to sheep Achro’s votes this early, thus tying the two of them together as wolves. I’ll keep your reads in mind, but I wouldn’t be surprised if all three flipped town.

Oh magnus, how naïve.
However I appreciate your honesty towards an SOD1 read against 3 players.

[Jackrito]

I’m sorry, but I do not remember playing together before, my apologies about that. Its a pleasure to play again though regardless.

I look forward to your views on the reactions that you got, because I’m a fan of the bait to get reaction play it can be very telling.

[Jaiden]

@catbae

@Jaiden @Leafia You’re both incredibly obvious town, stop slapfighting with each other.

Why? It got me exactly what I needed and then I purposely went inactive overnight to let it settle.

[Jaiden]

I believe we played once a very long time ago, but I’m not sure. Either way we’ve talked before.
As for views on the reaction tests I did, I won’t be giving that much away so soon. I prefer to leave small “traps” for later which could be compromised by me telling the exact truth. We have time right now and I will be using it.

[Jaiden]

She.

[Jaiden]

She.

[Leafia]

Not too sure what to think of Vulgard so far, but I ssf on’t hate him. Null for now.

@Vulgard

@Host_Account_1

thepigeonnyc (2): Jackrito, Phraze

@Jackrito @Phraze

What’s with this? Isn’t Pigeon a 0-poster?

Good question actually.

@Achromatic

I mean, given what I have learned about Zorvo this isn’t much of a stretch. I haven’t seen them wolf though so do they like the spotlight in that alignment?

I’m pretty versed in Seth wolfgames and today he’s been pretty villagery for him. He isn’t really like this as a wolf.

@Vulgard

Phraze’s ISO is realistically NAI but my gut is telling me the slot is town.

This I agree with.

@Vulgard

Since Leafia claimed self-resolving, I’m not bothering to read her and I would like the wagon on her to disperse. Revisit this later if she’s still alive, which she shouldn’t be if she actually is self-resolving.

Literally the smartest thing said all game so far.

VOTE: Kanave

Let’s see what develops from this, shall we?

Unironically, I’m getting the feeling that Zorvo/ Vulgard is v/v right now. This is feeling like Zorvo vs. Magnus from Morbtainado all over again.

[Jaiden]

@Leafia

At the beginning of the last game she was a lot more laid back than this

Well you see Leafia, this game I have a purpose.
I will best Achro.

…I’m also playing the character up. You can tell when I’m doing that because I do not usually use punctuation. That’s my tell. I like to start my games varied, it tends to be more interesting and harder to defend against.

[Jaiden]

@Leafia

Look at Jaiden’s D1 this game and in Morbtainado. It’s like they’re two seperate people.

So you did realise. Not bad.