Wild West FM 2 (2/25) - Town wins!

i’m reading May’s readlist in detail for the first time and it’s not as bad as i thought

this is tricky

i think if May’s a wolf then Wazza’s her partner and that’s it (because they gave her a lot of credit for simply being consistent)

unsure about everything else but i’m curious about Leafia/Zenon/Maple positioning in the readlist

imagine if the team was Frost/min/o.kazo/Zenon/Kork

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i will shoot leafia/maple/kork/o.kazo

Zorvo’s Big Wall Post Before He Goes To Sleep

Why did you not?
They voted a town member who got night killed.
They were suspected to be a wolf from that same town member.
I’m not 100% but I’m pretty sure Lol may have also suspected Garfooled
What has Garfooled done that’s Townie to you?

I would. Saying this Magnus is bad man.
I don’t like it you saying this. So I’m gonna give you minus points for this sorry buckaroo.
I just don’t think Gauva is a wolf here and there are just a fuck ton better places to go before them.

So like, one post here is saying “chance increases for them being wolf” then the next talk about them flipping wolf and wanting to clear the voters. Not sure how I feel about this post. I wouldn’t be against it if people voted Jar tbh.

I don’t even understand the Leafia wagon like I don’t understand all this pressure and control on you that should be in multiple other places.

He asked who to shoot and I gave them a name.
That wasn’t random lol.
Kinda wanna give you minus points for that but I feel it’s in your nature to do this and probably nothing is wrong with this post you probably just didn’t realize the actual situation there.

I think him and Zenon were the only pure Aro shooters from base stances.

I’ll volunteer as tribute!
(Even though some may disagree, I actually have more correct accuracy than not when it comes to finding wolves, it’s just when I am incorrect it looks very bad and memorable.)

I like this response but it’s also just being honest so I’m gonna keep your minus point.

Arctic Yes.
Still wouldn’t take Iaafr out, but probably wouldn’t shoot or vote today, perhaps evaluate more tomorrow.

Not sure about O.Kazo. Dislike Jar more tbh.
What has Leafia done that’s bad? That’s just as bad as this Guava accusation.

Hello?
Frost exists
Dota exists

Both can be wolves.

Outside of the two wagons that have to contain a wolf voter.
And you call yourself town, me call you plus points to being a wolf.

Tinfoiling you.
If Iaafr is actually wolf, I can see them with you.
Could actually be Wazza and not Iaafr and could see them with you.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner and guess who is ignoring that, your man of the hour, hero of the night, @Rajidae thats your guy!

Both Great Executions for today! :+1:

I really don’t see Leafia being wolf, but then again I don’t see them being wolf when they are a wolf but regardless there are WAY more valuable execution targets today then Leafia.

Or you can just vote to execute FrostWolf and if they flip wolf you can like, be semi clear. Sounds great. You should do it! :+1:

It’s ok Bud, do as much as you can.
The more players die, the more easier it probably is for you to sort and solve through tbh.

I don’t want Brad executed today or tomorrow.

Frost.
Reason: Ask Anyone about Frost
Result: Why shouldn’t you shoot
Conclusion: Shoot.

Can’t wait to see it!

Eevee should shoot that!

Why can only May be partners with Wazza though?
Seems like a reach conclusion, can you justify it?

The fact you think Zenon is a wolf, or at the very least brought it up now is like wtf.

One Last Thing Before I Go

Do that and I’ll vote you.

Shoot someone who voted on either the lol wagon or Achro wagon please and thank you!!! :grin:

Guava is a weird call. I honestly really like the comments they made about just… not having an internal world, not having any strong convictions to push. I think a wolf in that position would be much more likely to try to justify themselves on the subject when questioned, and I know my “no internal world” reads have fallen flat in the past because of playstyle differences. Ironically, he’s kinda shown he has an internal world on the subject of not having an internal world, if that makes sense? The tell I was getting from them is “just saying whatever’s convenient in thread”, and “I don’t have an internal world” isn’t convenient (and neither is “wolves kill Achro to push Leafia”). They’re the kind of… weird theories you get from someone who’s legitimately thinking as they go.

Quite honestly, I didn’t read back Brad in detail making my read on him. My read’s based on a few things: I remember him sounding tonally similar to One Step from Eden where he was a wolf (kinda… combative, but subtly so), he was much more confident in his townreads in the games I’ve played with him as town (here he went back on a few, which reads bad to me, given townreads are Brad’s defining feature), and I especially disliked the townreads people gave on him late EoD1 because he showed up - it stood out to me as really… artificial, a piece of meta easily subverted by coaching; he was around for EoDs in Eden, if minimally. Given everyone’s saying he’s noted for not bussing, and he voted and then shot Aro, I’m much less confident in the read than I was before the shot, which is when I wrote that readlist. With that context, he’s not a priority for me, and I’d probably only look to him if people who are sorta… familiar with his meta flip wolf, as they could potentially be coaching him. Brad being V also would make the Achro kill track better, since it means at least one part of his legacy was wrong.

O kazo I still get bad vibes from. The “Achro will be N1ed” comment looks bad, and the limited thoughts he’s given don’t feel like the first things a low-posting townie would think upon entering thread, you know? I don’t like him popping in with the Zorvo-sheep Achro vote yesterday and Wazza shot today, especially given I TR Zorvo. Looking back, I also don’t like his interactions with Jar on Achro, specifically this:

It’s a weird back-and-forth that throws shade on him to a more… easily-influenced townie without really committing to anything? If the wolfteam feared Achro enough to want him dead, this is the kind of stuff I’d expect from them.

Zenon… she showed up right after I wrote that post, so most of what I said there is invalid, and it was a lazy read to begin with. I can’t really get a handle on her vibes directly reading her, honestly - she tends to throw me off a lot. She’s a good wolf. This is the kind of slot that I tend to come back to once I have solid wolfreads, reading off associatives, but my current world is pretty scattershot and heavily dependent on lots of individual flips. Frost is wolfy, Gar is wolfy, O kazo is wolfy, but none of them particularly in conjunction with each other, so it makes it hard to get reads on the higher-influence slots like her.

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these people are inactive also i forgot to include eevee. the reason i dont want to shoot those who are active is that if they flip town after i shoot people will be very mad.

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The first thing I’m seeing here is that you aren’t contradicting me. I said I would mind.

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I gotta get to bed, so if you have follow-up questions, I’ll see them in the morning. Also holy hell gel polish is hard to remove if you have any follow-up tips on how to get gel polish off your finger nails please also let me know and I’ll see them in the morning. Pleas

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if iaafr is wolf they are the best player i have seen in a social deduction game sofar

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Have you tried interacting with them?

Me shy :no_mouth:
Jk i have nothing to say about him except some of his posts are very very towny

Now because Zorvo misreading one line doesn’t warrant the rest of his final thoughts being discounted, I’ll parse it through. I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but I’m paranoid that some of these people don’t want to shoot Frost because they’re partnered with him and they aren’t confident enough to bus. It doesn’t really work as a long-term plan, but there ya go.

First of all:

Zorvo acting like he has more influence in this town than I do is laughable and overconfident, which matches up with his town micro behaviour, but in a pretty easily faked way. This phrasing feels forced given what he’s responding to, so I think he’s trying too hard to resemble his town persona here.

@Zorvo why is Guava your top read? You said they seem to have good vibes and have been playing in a pro-town fashion, but why are they ranked higher than everyone else? Could you justify this with quotes, votecounts, general behaviour? Who are your runner up townreads? Source: (#3059)

What has Leafia done that’s towny today?
I don’t think w!Zorvo defends w!Leafia here like this unless he isn’t paying attention to the thread, but this townread has not been set up whatsoever, there is zero mention of Leafia in any gameplay capacity except for this if you squint: (#3713).

For Zorvo to really believe that only Brad and Zenon are the pure Aro shooters, his worldview’s scumteam must consist of Magnus / Iaafr / May / Frost / Aro / +1, which requires a few bold assumptions to believe. (Chief among them being that four evils don’t all decide to shoot a fifth, even if he’s getting replaced; we don’t kill Achro last night, we just powerwolf today; and we don’t need to all pick on each other either.) Either Zorvo wasn’t paying attention to the shooters and this is an uninformed slip, or his worldview is contradictory. I’m assuming the former.

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Well if you’re committed to shooting one of these four, my order of preference is the order you have them listed in from left to right. Not necessarily right now, but at least a few hours before EOD preferably. If your mind is uncertain, I still have my preference.

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Jar
iaafr
Arctic
Brad

Magnus
dota
guavagudetama

Jaiden
Garfooled
o.kazo

Zenon (gets a day pass for shooting Aro)
May

pending re-eval:
Zorvo
min

Leafia
Frostwolf103

nonexistent/haven’t seen enough posts from them:
ElizaThePsycho
eevee
Wazza
Kork
Maple

this is my worldview atm
does anyone have anything to add

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i don’t think people realize the importance of o.kazo voting to break the tie at eod when lol dying over Achro was such a huge blow to wolves that they had to NK Achro anyway

i thought it over and the guy’s just doing his thing

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i’ve seen a lot of arguments against Garfooled but really, same argument. the guy’s just doing his thing. real-timing with him and seeing his reactions have been decent so i don’t get the heat on him

anyway,

/ITA Frostwolf

@Italy @CRichardFortressLies

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i’m getting ready for my date so i’ll be back in like 6 hours wish me luck <3

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