Grand Idea Thread - Moderated

Grande Idea is tough to run when all of the classes are too meme-y or overpowered. Makes for a game that’s just less fun. This time we’re going to try with heaver restrictions on classes to try and ensure a game is actually runnable with the roles submitted. This isn’t an official thread but is a place to put classes you want to see have a reasonable chance at actually being run.

What is Grand Idea?
Grand Idea is a concept where the community submits their own uniquely created classes, which hosts can then rand a pool from and create game.

What’s different about this? Why?
GI Mafia has worked best in the past when there is at least some semblance of balance and coherency within the classes created. Often times however classes are submitted that completely throw that off course, making the game borderline unplayable. This thread will have specifically outlined restrictions to try and counteract that. You can use whatever GI thread you want but this has the garuntee of being moderated for these rules if you want to put in a class that could actually be run in GI.

What are the rules put in place?
Here’s a list:

  • Your class must be numbered properly.
  • Your class must have one of the 6 class types found in Chair of Deception: Killing, Offensive, Social, Support, Investigative, Special.
  • Your class can not alter major mechanics of the game. This includes but is not limited to: Removing the Elimination, removing majority or plurality mechanics, removing the Informed Minority, or changing everyone’s wincon (conversion is okay)
  • Your class can not target or name a specific player named in the classcard (for example an ability that can only target Chloe, or a class that only wins if Emilia wins).
  • Your class cannot be super overpowered. This is the hardest to moderate, but as a good rule of thumb, if it is stronger than the OG Prince, it’s probably not going to be fun to implement into an actual game.
  • Neutrals must have clearly defined and acheivable win conditions. Any class that does not share the exact town or mafia wincons is considered a neutral.
  • Classes will have standardized wincons, as seen below:

TOWN (uninformed majority): Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.
MAFIA (informed minority): Gain parity with the Uninformed Majority and defeat any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.
Neutral: varies by case to case basis

(you can write “Town wincon” in the wincon line if you want to, just be aware this is what the actual town wincon is)

Cards should be formatted like below. Class numbers are one more than the class before it.

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Chloe does have power here :)

Town Social

You, however, don’t (Passive) - You have no abilities, just your vote and your voice.

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

10 Likes

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Obligatory Your Mother Joke
Town Support

your mother - While you are alive, You count as four players

Cure-All Injection - Once per game, at night, you may choose to use Self Cure-All. This will prevent you from all causes of death, and heal you if you had any negative effects.

Town wincon

This was originally a card which was uh

Really really bad
It just ignored plurality once

Now it’s even worse

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The Iron Fist of This Thread

You are the leader of NETSEC’s operation - your role is to coordinate attacks and sniff out potential threats to the hack and your crew. Although you have hacking skills, your attention is trained on other matters to ensure the overall operation’s success. Don’t get caught.
Town Special

Covert Broadcast (Passive) - You may make anonymous announcements through the host at any time.

Grant Root Access (Day) - Target player will become this class when you die. If they cannot win with you, instead they and the Mafia (and any other informed minorities) win the game and everybody else loses.

Emergency Extraction (Night) - Protect target player tonight. - 3 uses

Move Hideout (Night) - Protect yourself tonight. - 1 use

Town Wincon

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DatBird the Moderator

Town Social
Blue (Passive): You are Blue. This allows you to bypass any silencing, post-restricting, etc. mechanics that are imposed by other roles or game mechanics (but not those imposed by the hosts).
lol you don’t even play anymore friendo (:orange_heart:): You have no day abilities, beyond the ability to post and vote, and cannot gain any by any means.
Review Setup (Night): Choose a role in the Grand Idea Thread. Learn if that role is present in this game. (infinite uses)
Ban User (Night): Kill target player. (1 use)
Town win condition

Converts to:

DatWolf the Evil Moderator

Mafia Social
Purple (Passive): You have wrestled power from Chloe, becoming Purple. This allows you to bypass any silencing, post-restricting, etc. mechanics that are imposed by other roles or game mechanics (but not those imposed by the hosts). Additionally, once per night, you may anonymously send a message to the thread through the game hosts.
Revise Setup (Night): Choose two roles in the Grand Idea Thread. If the first role is present in the game, all players with that role who are not aligned with your faction will become the second role. (3 uses)
Silence User (Night): Target player will be able to make a maximum of 50 posts tomorrow. They will be informed of this. (infinite uses)
Mafia win condition

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Eli

Town Investigative
Eli (passive): You may make a maximum of 50 posts per day phase.
Forum Mafia Political Compass (Day): Quote a player’s post and include a screenshot of exactly one archetype described in the Forum Mafia Political Compass meme. (You must submit a link to the post in your rolecard.) At the end of tonight, learn their role type. If you use this ability, you may not take an action granted to you by your role that night. (infinite uses)
Social Deduction Game Expert (Night): Target a player and name a social deduction game other than Throne of Lies: Medieval Politics or Chair of Deception, such as Untrusted or Blood on the Clocktower. Learn if that player’s role is based on that social deduction game. (infinite uses)
Town win condition

Converts to:

Eli (but evil)

Mafia Investigative
Eli (passive): You may make a maximum of 50 posts per day phase.
Forum Mafia Political Compass (Day): Quote a player’s post and include a screenshot of exactly one archetype described in the Forum Mafia Political Compass meme. (You must submit a link to the post in your rolecard.) At the end of tonight, learn their exact role. (infinite uses)
Social Deduction Game Expert (Night): Target a player and name a social deduction game other than Throne of Lies: Medieval Politics or Chair of Deception, such as Untrusted or Blood on the Clocktower. If that player’s role is based on that social deduction game, learn their exact role. (infinite uses)
Mafia win condition

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Mafia Motivated Lost Even-Night N5- Janitor Vigilante

Mafia Killing

Lost (Passive) - doesn’t receive starting mafia information, and is not included in it either. does not have access to mafia chat. other mafia members know of this role’s existence, but not their identity.

Motivated (Night) - if you killed a mafia member last night, choose a player. they will die. their flip will be hidden, and you learn their alignment.

N5- (Passive) - All your active abilities no longer function after the end of Night 5.

Jan (Passive) - the rolecards of all players you kill will flip on your death.

itor Vigilante (Night) - each even night, select one person. they will die, because they were killed. their flip will be hidden, and you learn their alignment.

Mafia Win condition

3 Likes

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Literally Every Player On This Site

the tunneller
Mafia Social

completely derails the thread as soon as they have a wolf read (Passive) - This card will be publicly announced as in the game at the start of the game.
refuses to compromise (Passive) - You must be voting a player at EoD. If you do not, it will be randomly added to one of the top two wagons.
blames their target when they flip village (Passive) - Anybody you are voting at EoD will flip as a Town class from the GI - Moderated thread.

5 Likes

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Mistyx

Town Special
every Mist role is a Latias reference (Passive): You have access to six Pokémon companions, each granting an associated night ability. Each of their abilities must be used once before any of them can be used again.

Absol (Night): Learn all players who were targeted by killing actions by members of the informed minority tonight. You will appear to visit all such players.
Shinx (Night): If you are poisoned tonight, you will gain a 1-shot strongman vigilante ability that can be used in day or night.
Alolan Vulpix (Night): Freeze target player. All actions used on them tonight, and all actions they use, will be delayed until the next night. If this affects an investigative action tonight, feedback will be given tonight as if that action was roleblocked.
Sylveon (Night): Pixilate target player. All investigative actions targeting them will be roleblocked.
Misdreavus (Night): Tonight, you will be immune to nightkills.
Minior (Night): Tomorrow, there will be a secret additional vote on your wagon. If there would be a tie for execution, and you are voting one of the wagons, your vote will count as two.

Town win condition

Converts to:

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Mistyx (but evil)

Mafia Special
every Mist role is a Latias reference (Passive): You have access to six Pokémon companions, each granting an associated night ability. Each of their abilities must be used once before any of them can be used again.

Absol (Night): Learn all players who were targeted by killing actions tonight, as well as which players targeted them. When you submit this action, you may choose which players you appear to visit tonight.
Shinx (Night): Intimidate a player, roleblocking them.
Alolan Vulpix (Night): Freeze target player. All actions used on them tonight, and all actions they use, will be delayed until the next night. If this affects an investigative action tonight, feedback will be given tonight as if that action was roleblocked.
Sylveon (Night): Pixilate target player. All investigative actions targeting them will be roleblocked.
Misdreavus (Night): Tonight, you will be immune to nightkills.
Minior (Night): Tomorrow, there will be a secret additional vote on your wagon. If there would be a tie for execution, and you are voting one of the wagons, your vote will count as two.

This one actually has a Latias (Night): Refract light, making yourself invisible. All night actions targeting you tonight will fail. (1 use)
Mafia win condition

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Dou:b:le Vortox

Mafia Social

Vortoxin (Passive) - All Town roles’ abilities yield false information.

Vortoxin the Second (Passive) - All Town roles’ abilities that yield feedback will have the word “not” inserted into them, or be otherwise logically negated. This ability is processed after Vortoxin.

Mafia Win condition

examples

cop checks town member X
they learn “X is not a member of the mafia”

tracker tracks mafia member Y who visits Z
they learn “Y did not visit A”

fruit vendor gives a fruit to X
X learns “you did not receive a vegetable last night”

vig shoots and kills Y
Y learns “you are not still alive”

innocent child z reveals to the thread, prompting an announcement that they are town
the thread learns “Z is not Mafia”

innocent child z reveals to the thread, prompting an announcement that they are a town innocent child
the thread learns “Z is not a Mafia Omni-Busdriver”

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TrustworthyLiberal

Neutral Social
Neutral Factions are Fun and Balanced (Passive): For the purposes of your ability and win condition, a Cult Leader is any players with the ability to change another player’s alignment, regardless of whether they are changing that player’s alignment to match their own.
Neutral design is very creative :) (Passive): You have a 1-shot bulletproof vest. If activated at night, this protects you from all attacks during the course of that night.
ten percent ITA shot (Day): Kill a player. If they are a Cult Leader, you instantly win the game. Otherwise, you are publicly revealed as TrustworthyLiberal, and all votes on you will count as two for the rest of the game.
Mukuro Ikusaba, the sixteenth student hidden somewhere in the school, (Night): Choose a player. Tonight, you will appear as if you were them to investigative abilities, and they will appear as Mafia, a Killer class type, and visiting the target of the factional kill (infinite uses)
Ensure that at least three members of the uninformed majority are executed during the course of the game, or kill a Cult Leader using ten percent ITA shot, or with an actual ITA shot.

4 Likes

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Noots Out

Town Social

no 3ps in my pure mafia lylo (passive) - ur a vt lol

Town Win condition

(role scrapped because it was a bit weird and probably too janky for games)

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Short Fuse Bomber

Town Killing

Short Fuse (Day) - Choose a player, you and your target both blow up. In true Short Fuse fashion, this must be used on Day 1. If you did not select a target before the last 2 hours of the day, a random player will instead be your target.

Town win condition

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The Resolver

Town Killing

Resolve the Wagons (Night, Compulsive) - Kill the player with the second most votes on them last EoD. You can target yourself. If several players were tied for second most votes, you can target any of them. If you don’t select a target, an eligible target will be picked at random.

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

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The Delegator

Town Offensive

Fixing the Rand (Night) - Choose a player. If they are Town with three or more abilities, vanillarize them and steal those abilities. Otherwise, nothing will happen.

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

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Named VT

Town Social

Named VT (Passive) - Congratulations. You are a named VT.

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

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The Strategist

Town Special

Restructuring (Night 0) - At the start of night 0, learn the identity of a random Town member. You may request them to swap their role with yours. If they accept, your roles will be swapped. They will not be informed who you are, neither before nor after the swap.

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

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Moral Support

Mafia Support

Hype Person (Passive) - You are the life of the Mafia team, and your hype never dies. You can talk in the wolfchat while dead.
WiM Rewarded (Passive) - Whenever you end a day phase as the top poster among the wolves while also being the top poster in wolfchat, you gain a 1-shot version of a random Mafia action from the Grand Idea Thread’s classcards.

Gain parity with the Uninformed Majority and defeat any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

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Bubbles.

Town Social

Bubbles. (Passive) - As long as you are alive, each dead Town member increases Bubbles by one. However, each dead Mafia member reduces Bubbles by two. Bubbles starts at 0.
So Tired… (Passive) - When Bubbles reaches five, you die.
A Search for Purpose (Night) - Neighborize a player. The neighborhood becomes active as soon as you use this ability, and remains active until the end of the night.

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

(could you reflavor this role pls bc as it is its extremely triggering)

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Vanilla Townie

Town Social

Defeat all members of the Informed Minority and any neutrals that directly oppose your win condition.

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