FAM6 - Thread 4 - Day 2

FoL Annual Mash 6

From the twisted minds of @May, @Arete, @Ash, @Chloe, @tutuu, @Zone_Q11, and @Zugzwang
Hosted on the account @FAMHost


PLANET FORTRESS OF LIES!

Flavor

Welcome to the Weekly* Monday** Discussion!
* Not actually weekly.
** Not actually on Monday.

To start off this Weekly Monday Discussion, we’d like to extend a huge thank-you to all those who helped make FoLCon 2046 happen, whether as convention organizers, generous donors, aerospace engineers, attendees, construction workers, or just cheerleaders! This has been one of the most ambitious events of the past few decades, and we are endlessly grateful to everybody who allowed us to get away with it. Good job, team!

Secondly, we’d like to discuss a persistent trend we’ve noticed on FoL – the interference of real life. Many of our users have found that their obligations to their career, family, friends, and health lead to incidents where mafia games become deprioritized. We completely understand these impacts are often unavoidable – this is not intended to be a call-out post. Rather, we would like to create a solution to the problem of real life which can support our users going forward. To this end, we are proud to announce our new project…

PLANET FORTRESS OF LIES!

You may have noticed some exciting signs of this project, as we’ve already launched! The FoLCon 2046 convention center, alongside all its attendees (that’s you!), is currently traveling through space, and we are working to reach a new planet on which Fortress of Lies can build its own society governed by the newly-established FoL Council and structured entirely around the play of mafia games, ensuring that real life can no longer cause game deprioritization or integrity issues.

We expect to have landed on the planet’s surface by game start. To avoid any possible problems with out-of-game information, we are not offering opt-outs or return shuttles at this time. Don’t worry – in the unlikely case of serious emergency, we will safely return to Earth as a group in the convention center shuttle. We’re very excited about Planet FoL, and we hope you will be as well. Please keep replies constructive and on-topic.

Rules

  1. Follow the Global Rules as well as the Forum Game Rules, or else.
  2. Activity and cordial behavior towards your fellow player is expected. (At minimum, you must make 15 substantive, on-topic, game-related posts per phase.)
  3. ITAs this game will be partially automated – processing will be done by @Zugbot, but flips will be posted by the hosts. Attempting to manipulate or exploit automated ITA processing in any way is a modkillable rulebreak.
  4. Have fun!

Phases And Timing

  • The game will begin 2026-06-18T22:00:00Z. Rolecards will be sent out before then.
  • Day phases will last for 24 hours. Night phases will last for 24 hours.
  • All phase changes will happen at 9:00:00 PM
  • During the night, the deadline for action submission is 2 hours before SoD (7:00:00 PM). Any action submitted after that time will NOT be processed.
  • During the day, actions will open 1 hour after the start of the day (10:00:00 PM) and close 1 hour before the end of the day (8:00:00 PM). Day actions may be pre-queued for a specific time.
  • All ITA sessions will last for 1 hour exactly. If you don’t know what that is, consult the next section.
               Session 1 lasts from 1:00 AM2:00 AM
               Session 2 lasts from 7:00 AM8:00 AM
               Session 3 lasts from 5:00 PM6:00 PM
  • Events may begin at any time, but will be scheduled mainly for times of high activity. Events are subgames where players may win prizes, or even death.

In-Thread Attacks (ITAs)

  • All players may use In-Thread Attacks during an allotted ITA session, which will begin on day 2. ITAs allow players to publicly attempt to kill other players. (See detailed explanation below in How ITAs Work)
  • By default, you have 1 ITA shot per day. Effects may modify the number of shots you have or any other ITA characteristic.
  • To fire an ITA shot, simply ping @Zugbot with /ITA [player]
  • At some point, ITAs will be disabled. This will be whenever the hosts deem fit.

How ITAs Work

Instead of having accuracy, ITA shots always hit, and deal damage to a player’s HP. However, each shot still has a chance to kill (i.e. the hybrid or Lumi system).


More information on ITAs

Every player in the game starts with 100 HP unless otherwise noted. ITA shots deal damage (base 10). If a player reaches 0 HP, they die. Additionally, each shot has a chance of a direct hit, which will kill the target regardless of their HP. The chance of a direct hit is based on the target’s current HP.

Damage / Target’s Current HP = Direct Hit Chance

The chance is rolled before the damage is dealt. For example, if a player at 100HP is targeted by a shot with 10 damage, the direct hit chance is 10/100, or 10%. If the shot isn’t a direct hit, then the target’s health is reduced accordingly to 90.

ITA Feedback

Shot feedback:

  • “The shot connects.” — We have processed the shot, and its damage has been applied (damage may be 0). The target is at a non-zero HP, and the shot was not a Direct Hit. To be extra clear, this shot DID NOT KILL if you see this feedback.
  • “Direct hit! Stand by for flip.” — The shot rolled a Direct Hit and a player died.
  • “Hit! The target has died from their wounds. Stand by for flip.” — The target reached 0 HP and a player died.
  • “Miss!” — The shot was mechanically stopped, and no damage was dealt.

HP feedback:
A player’s HP is private information. We will not reveal a player’s exact HP to anyone (unless otherwise noted), including the player.


Voting

  • There is no majority, only a deadline elimination. Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day will be eliminated.
  • All votes must be in the form of [vote]player[/vote] or [v]player[/v] to be counted. Unvotes should be formatted as [unvote][/unvote].
  • You may self-vote. Along with this, no-elimination is a valid vote. In cases where no-elim and another vote are tied at the end of the day, no-elim will have priority in the rand.
  • Tied votes will result in a player being eliminated at random from among the tied players.
  • MyLo (mis-eliminate and lose) and LyLo (eliminate or lose) will not be announced, and votes will not be locked. This is not in place for a final 3 scenario.
  • You may see the votecount as of a specific post by clicking the hammer icon on that post.



The Setup

All roles in this game are based off a user (Character) of FoL, and will feature Abilities & Flavor based on that person, their personality, and memorable moments from their time on the site. These Abilities will be summed up by a Role Name.

You MAY claim: You may NOT claim:
Your assigned Character, but doing so may carry mechanical risks. Your Flavor text, a short paragraph describing the person your role is based on, either directly or paraphrasing it.
Details about your Abilities, so long as they are paraphrased. The name or exact text of any of your Abilities.
Details about your Role Name, so long as it is paraphrased. Your exact Role Name.

This game is Closed. The exact set of abilities, win conditions, and factions in play is unknown. However, the following details are known:

  • The uninformed majority faction is called the Town, also known as the Loyalists, who support the Planet FoL project and the government of the council. Its win condition is this:
         You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated, and when at least 1 Town member is still alive.
  • The primary informed minority faction is called the Mafia, also known as the Saboteurs, who hope to see the Planet FoL project fail so they can go home. Its win condition is this:
         You win if no more threats to the Mafia exist or nothing can prevent that from happening.
  • Other factions, as well as Neutral roles with their own win conditions, may exist.
  • This game is Role Madness; every player has their own, unique ability.
  • No alignment conversion, false flips, game-ending jesters, or direct lies in your own rolecard. Everything else is fair game.

Example Rolecard

OFFICIAL ROLE DOCUMENT, DO NOT QUOTE/SCREENSHOT
discobot
discobot
Town Dicebot

@discobot roll 2d6”

Known for your knowledge of DICE, lengthy analytical TUTORIALS, and generally being an absolutely FORTUNE TELLER beloved by SOME, for this game, you will serve as an example rolecard not dealt to any player.

You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated.

⭒ ✧ ◉ ✧ ⭒

Smart HomePassive
You are automatically added to every player’s role card.

⭒ ✧ ◉ ✧ ⭒

Dice RollingDay 2+
Generate a number between 1 and 20 in your role card. Today, your ITA will do that much damage. You may use this action multiple times per day.

⭒ ✧ ◉ ✧ ⭒

Fortune Telling BoothEven Night
Ask a yes-or-no question. You will receive an answer corresponding to the Magic 8-Ball Fortune that best answers your question, in the judgment of the hosts.

⭒ ✧ ◉ ✧ ⭒


In this role card, your Character is Discobot, your Role Name is Dicebot, and your Abilities are Smart Home, Dice Rolling, and Fortune Telling Booth.

Acceptable and unacceptable claims

An example of an acceptable claim:

I’m Discobot, a robot. I can see everybody’s rolecard, and I can use a day action to make my ITA do 1d20 damage. On even nights, I can ask a yes-or-no question and get an honest Magic 8-Ball response from the hosts. Last night, I asked “is May mafia?” and learned that nobody knows.

This claim repeats exactly the user’s Character, but paraphrases Role Name, Abilities, and feedback. It does not claim any of the Flavor text or exact details about the rolecard.

An example of an unacceptable claim:

I’m Discobot, the Town Dicebot. I have a passive called “Smart Home” that says “You are automatically added to every player’s role card.” My role name is in [color=green] tags. My flavor says I’m an example rolecard that no player actually gets. Last night, I asked if May was mafia and learned “answer hazy, try again” at 4:53 PM.

This claim repeats exactly the user’s Role Name, Abilities and feedback, all of which should be paraphrased. In addition, it discusses the user’s Flavor text (which states Discobot is an example rolecard), exact details of the rolecard formatting (namely, that the role name is in [color=green] tags), and exact timing of action feedback, all of which can be metagamed.


Signups

Click here for list of signups
  1. @Arctic
  2. @soweli
  3. @benguinedparbecue
  4. @Marshal
  5. @HeroShotter9000 (@Hippopablompoyeetus)
  6. @neil_the_eel
  7. @beancat
  8. @Amelia
  9. @iamagummybear
  10. @YoubutWorse
  11. @jason.mrrown
  12. @Pqwerty
  13. @Memekingpizza
  14. @Ruby
  15. @boredofboredom
  16. @Hazardwaste
  17. @Cape90
  18. @Leafia
  19. @ACE
  20. @Kelsier
  21. @meow
  22. @thepigeonnyc
  23. @spookycat27
  24. @Kiiruma
  25. @Mistyx
  26. @diafiasco
  27. @Apocryphal
  28. @PortalRadio (@ImaginaryNeon)
  29. @nutella
  30. @Italy
  31. @autumnseas
  32. @Jinrou
  33. @annika
  34. @clarameow
  35. @Selkie
  36. @Lucid_Daydream
  37. @hiii
  38. @Chomps
  39. @Daeron
  40. @Wazza
  41. @Ephemera
  42. @BradLand
  43. @baudib1
  44. @Magnus
  45. @Marluxion
  46. @FreezinIce
  47. @Ranta
  48. @Marluna
  49. @wlwillow (Willow)
  50. @gori
  51. @RealThomYorke (@Jaiden)
  52. @ATNoName
  53. @Relm
  54. @Lissa
  55. @Wisdom
  56. @bystander
  57. @mimi
  58. @Linda
  59. @asherlark
  60. @Kyubey (@Litten)
  61. @Ishmael
  62. @SherlockHolmes
  63. @Achromatic
  64. @SirDerpsAlot

Backups

Click here for list of backups
  1. @TheBlueElixir
  2. @Kanave
  3. @Jane
  4. @Frostwolf103
  5. @WindwardAway
  6. @guavagudetama
  7. @Luka

Hi! To find out what I can do, say @discobot display help.

Threadmarks

Graveyard

Click here for graveyard

@Ishmael - Died Day 1 - Italy, Town
@Bradland - Executed Day 1 - Icibalus, Mafia Anomalist
@Amelia - Died Night 1 - Magnus, Town
@annika - Died Night 1 - snowe, Town
@Apocryphal - Died Night 1 - diafiasco, Town
@Arctic - Died Night 1 - carbonated, Town
@hiii - Died Night 1 - YoubutWorse, Town
@soweli - Died Night 1 - pandora, Town
@YoubutWorse - Died Night 1 - Leafia, Town
@Hazardwaste - Died Day 2 - Town
@Wisdom - Died Day 2 - Mistyx, Town
@spookycat27 - Died Day 2 - thepigeonnyc, Mafia
@ATNoName - Died Day 2 - Luka, Mafia
@thepigeonnyc - Died Day 2 - meow, Mafia
@Pqwerty - Died Day 2 - BradLand, Town
@Kiiruma - Died Day 2 - ImaginaryNeon, Town
@autumnseas - Died Day 2 - ???
@clarameow - Died Day 2 - iamagummybear, Town
@PortalRadio - Died Day 2 - Arctic, Town
@wlwillow - Died Day 2 - Gocj, Town

Day 1

Click here for D1 threadmarks

Day 2

Click here for D2 threadmarks

Alphabetized Playerlist

This is an unofficial playerlist provided for player convenience. Any effects that depend on the order of the playerlist will NOT use this list.

Summary

@ACE
@Achromatic
@Amelia
@annika
@Apocryphal
@Arctic
@asherlark
@ATNoName
@autumnseas
@baudib1
@beancat
@benguinedparbecue
@boredofboredom
@BradLand
@bystander
@Cape90
@Chomps
@clarameow
@Daeron
@diafiasco
@Ephemera
@Fext
@FreezinIce
@gori
@Hazardwaste
@HeroShotter9000 (@Hippopablompoyeetus)
@hiii
@iamagummybear
@Ishmael
@Italy
@jason.mrrown
@Jinrou
@Kelsier
@Kiiruma
@Kyubey (@Litten)
@Leafia
@Linda
@Lissa
@Lucid_Daydream
@Magnus
@Marluna
@Marluxion
@Marshal
@Memekingpizza
@meow
@mimi
@Mistyx
@neil_the_eel
@nutella
@PortalRadio (@ImaginaryNeon)
@Pqwerty
@Ranta
@RealThomYorke (@Jaiden)
@Relm
@Ruby
@Selkie
@SherlockHolmes
@SirDerpsAlot
@soweli
@spookycat27
@TheGalacticBaseballer
@thepigeonnyc
@Wazza
@Wisdom
@wlwillow (Willow)
@YoubutWorse

SirDerpsAlot (9): Marluxion, Jinrou, Wazza, Kyubey, Magnus, benguinedparbecue, HeroShotter9000, Chomps, diafiasco
Kyubey (5): Marshal, Ranta, iamagummybear, neil_the_eel, Relm
SherlockHolmes (4): Ephemera, Baudib1, Leafia, ACE
jason.mrrown (2): Mistyx, asherlark
Linda (2): SirDerpsAlot, FreezinIce
iamagummybear (1): Memekingpizza
ACE (1): Cape90
Daeron (1): SherlockHolmes
meow (1): Kelsier
Wazza (1): jason.mrrown

Not Voting (19): beancat, Daeron, Fext, gori, Italy, Lissa, Lucid_Daydream, Marluna, meow, nutella, RealThomYorke, Ruby, TheGalacticBaseballer, boredofboredom, Selkie, bystander, Linda, Achromatic, mimi

nya nya nya

Second

I just woke up from my nap why mafia wagon me

wow crazy

Anyway, I disagree heavily with the premise that I’ve not been helpful towards town. People seem to get the weird idea in games that you need to be correct and or exclusively push wolves in order to be helpful in games, but to be honest a lot of games are just won by making sure things are proceeding smoothly and fighting back when they aren’t.

Part of why Marshal got so irritated with me earlier today was because I was forcing a thunder dome between us without wanting to see how their reads shaked out. Pushing on Marshal so early in the day is means that it gives me time to back down or change my mind if I think things are actually fine with regards to Marshal, and a lot of my actual thinking at the time was influenced by not knowing that things were, running smoothly in mash terms, and tbh even if they were ran smoothly it would be criminal to not take a stance against Marissa after Arctic died and saw the exact same things I did, but I didn’t want to act on at the time.

Head butting villagers is fine and normal behavior if you are willing to change your mind. And this is assuming they are town of course, but I’m perfectly capable of changing my mind on a dime if I think someone posts something that makes their earlier play in the game click. Marshal this game has, in my opinion, had some pretty insane takes throughout the game which magnified my suspicion against them and I had an edge against them that no other player had, even if I died in ITA’s, my will would ultimately be enforced at EOD*, which means I do not need to fear backlash from Marshal if they are a wolf and just getting spurned, I could confidently walk up to them get dunked on them then pull the rug against them.

Here is how my thoughts on Marshal actually evolved this game. During the night, I was trying to rationalize their behavior to me if they are a wolf - it is sort of hard to come pass the idea of them wanting to give me KP if they are a wolf, since they know I had the potential to lock in and kill one of their teammates, but, also in my mind, I was comparing to previous games I remember playing with them where they were mafia. There was a lord of the rings game where they showed me and post game talked about how they pocketed strong players like me and etc and when I compare to this game I could see them giving me KP to get into the same sort of situation.

Once I figured I was roughly surviving the night, before SOD I was pretty tempted to push Marshal more and once I saw Arctic die and so many town die I was convinced I needed to push her. Then I pushed her, and she reacted about as well as you would expect her, but as she kept posting I’ve became increasingly worried I was wrong - her insistence on wanting her list to be followed before flipping her felt weirdly non confrotional and not something I expected to see from w!marshal, and then I saw her post where she said she was trying this game to be as pro town as possible, and tbh while I think there’s a lot of micro moments where their analysis is wrong on slots/etc I see the over arching play, get kyubey a vig to get information on them, focus on corralling town to shoot their poe, etc etc, as town and I became convinced of the opposite.

Does that mean marshal can’t be mafia? No. I mean they can be mafia and I’m simply misreading the situations etc but that’s what I’ve thought and this post is probably the culmination of me running around in my mind thinking about their slot all day.

4 Likes

can you add a subway surfers in the corner ?

mafia disabled the likes, op ability

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Relm not being frozen in a mash is kind of throwing me for a loop but it’s made me kinda townpass relm for that bad reason

yay it’s back

Current Votecount

SirDerpsAlot (9): Marluxion, Jinrou, Wazza, Kyubey, Magnus, benguinedparbecue, HeroShotter9000, Chomps, diafiasco
Kyubey (5): Marshal, Ranta, iamagummybear, neil_the_eel, Relm
SherlockHolmes (4): Ephemera, Baudib1, Leafia, ACE
jason.mrrown (2): Mistyx, asherlark
Linda (2): SirDerpsAlot, FreezinIce
Wazza (1): jason.mrrown
iamagummybear (1): Memekingpizza
ACE (1): Cape90
Daeron (1): SherlockHolmes
meow (1): Kelsier

Not Voting (19): beancat, Daeron, Fext, gori, Italy, Lissa, Lucid_Daydream, Marluna, meow, nutella, RealThomYorke, Ruby, TheGalacticBaseballer, boredofboredom, Selkie, bystander, Linda, Achromatic, mimi

anyways the sda push is wrong and you should all be ashamed of yourselves etc etc

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there was something in the middle of day 1 that made me want to town kyubey but i forget what

Explain it

Now, onto the actual other aspects of my play. I’ve been pretty laid back and taking no responsibility because I’ve saw nothing that warrants me taking any responsibility. Why am I the one being burdened with taking the responsibility of reading these people I’ve never seen before with so little information about how they play/flips/interacted with other slots? In my mind, the best thing I can do is to read what other people are saying and support or discourage it while focusing on my actual thoughts to better inform my shot if I get ITA’d/vote at EOD (though it’s looking like that’s not really mattering).

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