Poor Approximations of Catgirls - Thread 1

[Marshal]

@Vulgard

i’d like people to stop calling me a powerwolf when there are no flips
i haven’t even pushed anything super hard

@Vulgard

this take is weird because it implies min is actually town when he could not be and me asking for elaboration on people’s townreads on him would be a good thing in that world

why does it have to be “min town vul bad powerwolf trying to sus him”

@Vulgard

@Marshal

you were trying to deny correct town takes that were becoming consensus

ok so which other correct town take was i trying to deny
wazza? i fully acknowledged that i might be unintentionally doing that but i still think the consensus on wazza wolf formed unnaturally

(I liteerally SAID which ones this was btw)

@Vulgard

i guess i lost track of what you were accusing me of at some point
makes sense when several people have done that for reasons i don’t believe to be fair

COME on

@Vulgard

also i’m not sure what you’re expecting from me
if i think the consensus is wrong on something i’m supposed to not say it?

@Vulgard

funny how everyone who wolfreads me is in my poe
just saying

@Vulgard

@Marshal

If vulgard makes one more extremely unsubtle “oh yeah just btw just saying everyone who’s wolfreading me is mafia/silly/makes no sense”

i literally just called misty’s read on me fair enough and your read okay

@Vulgard

@Marshal

Also heavy vul partner equity imo but nya

will people stop calling me w/w with people i read village just because i read them village

Literally tilts me just reading this but yeah
While I made my vulsucks comp I noticed something interesting gimme a sec

[Marshal]

It was saying why they were not w/w, not why they were scum

but I truly could not care less atm

[Marshal]

@Vulgard

i’ve just realized that blade changing his mind on the wagons at any point will singlehandedly decide who dies at eod because it’ll take four village voters to swing the wagons back the other way and that’s a hard ask for chaotic eods
yeah this has to be a town role right?

This is a truly terrible look for blade in my opinion

[Millium]

why?

[Marshal]

I also think blade not putting a vote on me or arete is a bad look

I think that could be intentionally designed to make wagons closer and people swapping in and around on us to force people to take sides on a v/v argument and create a bunch of arbitrary division in the town.

[Marshal]

For one it sort of TMI’s him mafia in phrasing

i’ve just realized that blade changing his mind on the wagons at any point will singlehandedly decide who dies at eod because it’ll take four village voters to swing the wagons back the other way and that’s a hard ask for chaotic eods

There is no “if this is mafia”. He specifically says village votes. To me feels like a LW in awe of the role his buddy has.

Also it’s a super easy type of read to make but that can’t really burn you should he flip wolf because others in thread had tossed it around. And 0 people fought him on it.

[Marshal]

@Marluxion

i am begging you

even if you are 90% sure arete is town

i am like 100% sure marshal is town from those last few posts
If marshal goes over and is town i’m going to be unable to clear you for the rest of the game, despite me thinking you are probably town, it’s gonna be a gigantic pita

(Last post, actually shutting up until i sleep now)

@Vulgard

@Marluxion

i am begging you

even if you are 90% sure arete is town

i am like 100% sure marshal is town from those last few posts

fine

/vote Arete

@Nyarchmage

i’m sorry if i was right
bye

@Vulgard

if this flips town kill marshal tomorrow
don’t just forget about arete’s case like people love to forget legacies

This frankly speaking parses as super w/w to me.

I do not see why vul would ever switch to me but if his wolfpartner is begging him to switch I think the way he easily switched makes me think he wanted to align with the pack. Also marl’s likes on these posts absolutely do not line up.

He says this one 3 posts before

but also instantly likes this one

Which if I am “100% town” is not a post you like.

[Marshal]

He also had one lamistyesque post that i remember overnight i hated but idk if I can find it

[Millium]

Meh I have a bias against public roles, especially ones that are categorized under vote manipulation, and I haven’t seen much of a reason to hate Wiggin

Mechanically even one of those on anyone would make me think, “that’s probably town”, and they have two

[Marshal]

@Marluxion

@Marshal

unordered within tiers

Arctic
Hippo
JohnCarter
LASERpointer
Marluxion
Marshal
Millium
min
Mistyx
nightingale

Bladescape
nutella
Squirrel
---- poe ----
everyone else

why in the christ do you have so many more confident townreads than i do
like you immediately identified me as town and you’re confident enough on every single person in the top category to put them at the same level as me?

why are you so confident on JC being town? He is like
one of the top 5 wolves in the setup alongside wisdom katze and hyena

same with min
min’s way past his wolf meta of being unable to post as wolf and i dont really think he’s done anything to make me hard townread him, especially not at the level of confidence you are

ITS THIS ONE
this post is really bad

He calls himself town while at the same time shading me on 2 reads that are either flipped correct or I am confident was correct (min is town to wolf!marl for this purpose).

[Millium]

Who the fuck cares what he said, before people have flipped, what

[Marshal]

Many reasons. To start it’s the exact two reads vulgard shaded me on. It’s clear to me that my list of townreads is probably pretty solid atp, vulgard tried hard to discredit them and here marl does the same thing while also insinuating that he should be a confident townread to me. Gave me badish vibes even at the time but I didnt say anything because i didnt say anything.

He tries hard to bring down JC and min just like vul did and in a similar way. I truly think wolves were trying very hard to not let JC townleader it up.

[Marshal]

I also think it’s highly possible that wolves shot JC and not vul. Maybe both or maybe neither but vul looked super super bad from that arete flip atleast to me

[Marshal]

@Vulgard

funny how everyone who wolfreads me is in my poe
just saying

@Mistyx

this post is also wolfy

@Vulgard

you just called four of my posts wolfy and refused to give reasoning for any of the four
you have wolfread me when we were v/v before and you have always been wrong
this wolfread is a lost cause if you’re a villager

Mist is town. I have very little doubts.

[Marshal]

@Vulgard

she solves more early on as town. consistently across these games, i had the thought that town alana takes a more active role in solving, earlier. it’s possible that some of this can be attributed to differences between mafia cafe and our site; our site features a lot of posts, especially this game. but alana hasn’t said anything like “there are too many posts,” so i don’t feel like she has a problem with this.

This feels like a super uncharitable interperetation of alana’s posting this game because to me she was solving early. Also literally nobody would verify her meta so to me this feels like kinda a free setup for a future dunk but specifically this feels like it’s a straight up lie.

[Marshal]

Wazza wagon looks pretty clear at its peak

@Nyarchmage

||Hippopablompoyeetus (#2824); JohnCarter (#166); Millium (#3670); Mistyx (#3644)

[Marshal]

I feel like this game would be a lot lot easier if someone didn’t spend the entire day tunneling two villagers incorrectly and derailing a thread that otherwise I think was on a very good track if vul’s heavy fear of the consensus is anything to go by

like I don’t want to be mean but

@Vulgard

@Arete

can we stop having these wagons, which suck, and instead have different wagons, which don’t suck

THANK YOU
SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS AND IT’S THE THREAD’S TOP WOLF

i think maybe the squirrel wagon is okay but everything else is terrible

@Vulgard

@Arete

my vague impression of the thread consensus is that people want to kill me (a town), Squirrel (kinda townie), Vul (townie), Wisdom (kinda townie), and Wind (maybe actually a wolf)

it can’t be a coincidence that we see the game exactly the same way right
i guess wolf arete could be parroting me here but

@Vulgard

@Marshal

JC isn’t a meta based read and I can’t say im overly familiar with his wolf game, I just find his posts and thoughts to consistently be things I see and go “wow I see exactly how and why he has landed on this”, and think he’s treated every argument in good faith which is very good considering the number of tinfoils/wolfreads on him

LOL
LOOOOOOOLLLLLLL
legit unbelievable that you think this
also i read the arete case
arete is probably correct in that you’re a wolf, and jc might actually be your partner
i was wrong but not all that wrong

I think it’s obvious why vulgard salivated over these posts :shrug:

[Marshal]

I think we could find serious value in people bouncing off of arete because every indication I have is that they were as much of a lw as vulgard, probably did a better job than he did lol

I’m also interested in looking at the consensus around the time vul started fighting hard against it. He bitterly fought the consensus early and worked hard to force through wolfreads on the people forming it (me, arctic, JC), and then when someone who disrupted it by spitting garbo anticonsensus wolfreads he jumped off of that and helped give them relevancy.

[Marshal]

I am very very exhausted and kinda feel like im getting into overly mean territory and I dont want to do that i promised myself i wouldnt be nasty in the same way I was in past games so I am just going to go to bed

[Marshal]