UFO Sighting Main Thread - Game Over (Aliens Win.)

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@Rad

RVS isn’t really a thing in this community? Cause we appear to have completely skipped it.

oh no it is nobody did it this game yet though lmao

[min]

blanket townread on rich

hes usually a book that gets opened when pushed though ngl

[min]

tldr: I know nobody
I like rad

kingtroll is being underwhelming

goodnight fellow chronically online mafia players

[Magnus]

@min

this is genuinely the least active sod ive ever seen

Timezones, amirite?

@min

there is so much in our universe I feel like it would be so weird for there to be literally zero life

Has anyone heard of the Fermi Paradox? If there’s a high probability of intelligent extraterrestrial life, on planets possibly much older than our Sun, surely these civilisations may have developed interstellar travel (I mean, we’re looking into it now, so…), so why haven’t we been contacted yet? Or in other words, “but where is everybody?”

@Achromatic

Hello. I am hard claiming a role which will confirm me as town Day 4. Literally confirm. If I am not confirmed town day 4 you can turbo lynch me.

Other than that let’s do our best and have fun.

With fourteen players alive, I’m assuming exactly three evils (or aliens…) and between 0-2 neutrals until otherwise proven. Even with perfect nightkills and only misexes, D4 is only MYLO. So I’m inclined to believe this claim, and anyone who rolefishes further is possibly evil trying to figure out whether they should nightkill Achro or not, before it’s too late.

@Litten

bold of y’all to assume that the game wouldn’t be over by d4 if he’s a wolf

In which case well played. Don’t get paranoid.

@Leafia

Hopefully that’s not the case. I’m getting good vibes from CRich and min at the moment too since they both seem pretty relaxed in the thread. What do you think Achro?

Remember in Morbtainado how I made a case on why you were evil because you obviously weren’t relaxed, and you just went ahead and said “uh, no… I’m super chill as evil. It’s not stressful at all, what are you talking about?”

@Litten

not gonna be very active d1
activity will pick up d2
I joined this cuz I would have felt bad if I declined to join
even if I’m busy

@Leafia

Weird reason for a townread honestly.

VOTE: Jarek

Please explain.

@Jarek

VOTE: Leafia

It was a joke

@Leafia

Why vote me back.then?

@Jarek

Because you voted me

@Jarek

You literally voted me for a shoddy reason you didn’t think I wouldn’t let that slide did you

I can’t disagree with Jarek. Leafia found an excuse to vote Jarek, and immediately used Jarek’s countervote as a springboard to start this back-and-forth. I’m not entirely sure what this means, but it feels like Leafia’s looking for reasons to be helpful, it doesn’t come across as natural.
Wait, someone else already said that later?

@Achromatic

VOTE: Leafia

Leafia your tone doesn’t feel quite right. Are you howling?

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@Achromatic

Why do you want to pressure specifically Jarek?

@Leafia

That’s a weird thing to say Achro. I’m just trying to figure out why Jarek responded to a vote for pressure with a vote on me. I’ve literally never seen a villager react that way to a vote for pressure. It’s not like it was a serious vote. So why does he automatically assume I’m a wolf for it?

You didn’t initially vote Jarek to pressure him, you voted because Jarek made an obvious joke townread, so you’re just… lying here? I think?
There’s a lot here, but I’m mainly cherrypicking at the moment because I don’t want a wallpost.

@FRink

shot in the dark if this works like on our site VOTE: gyrlander

Since I was partnered with Gyr last game, I can tell you Gyr won’t be online for hours and hours.

@Achromatic

One second cross referencing my leafia database

@Achromatic

Leafia is probably town due to her clarity of thought being much higher here than when she is a wolf.

VOTE: no one

One minute between posts, that was speedy.
However, I’m forced to disagree with your analysis. You see, I was a participant in the game of Flicker and you weren’t, and here’s how w!Leafia played that game.

Leafia saying stuff as evil

@Leafia

These questions coming fro. O. Kase sound like a lost villager since I think if they were a wolf,they’d be asking in the wolfchat, but they could be faked. Townlean for now though.

@Leafia

Jaiden can have the slightest of townleans based on gut too.

@Leafia

I’m going to try attracting a certain someone here that I think I should be able to read now with being masons together last game.

(Was partnered with Phraze this game, since it isn’t obvious.)

@Leafia

@Jarek

Kinda feels like zorvo and okazo are alligned so I’m going to assume they’re both evil until I am proven wrong

You just mindmelded with me a bit. It is kind of feeling like that’s a possibility.

@Leafia

I like Magnus’s energy here. He gives off a villagery feel that I like. It’s a good look for him honestly. It reminds me of how he was in Morbtainado in a way that I can’t really explain.

@Leafia

Also, how many wolves does wveryone think there are? I’m leaning towards 3-4 depending on their abilities myself.

In hindsight, I’m guessing evils tend to theorise about the evil count earlier in order to avoid slipping later.

@Leafia

Yeah. I’d say Atlas is a townlean for me too, based mostly on gut.

(Was also partnered with Atlas.)

@Leafia

Out of the four, from most likely to be a wolf to least likely, I’d order them this way: Lemon, Neon, Sillykitty, and Jarek.

@Leafia

Yeah. Some pressure on Sillykitty could be good. VOTE: sillykitty2366

@Leafia

It just sounds like you’re just trying to discredit and shade Zorvo. Although I have you as more null right now than anything, maybe a slight scumlean if anything.

(Was also partnered with Silly, aka Min.)

@Leafia

Why do you think I’m scumreading you Silly? I just want to have pressure on you in the hopes that it’ll help me improve my read on you.

(Very similar excuse as Leafia’s using now, voting Jarek.)

@Leafia

It’s called voting for pressure. It’s something villagers do. it doesn’t make me scum.

@Leafia

I literally said I was voting you for pressure in the very post where I made the vote.

@Leafia

Just because I scumlean someone doesn’t mean I can’t decide to apply pressure on someone they’re scumreading that I think looks kind bbn if scummy too in order to get a better read on them.

@Leafia

Because I want to see if I can use the pressure to figure out Silly’s alignment, which should help in solving Zorvo as well hopefully.

@Leafia

@Atlas

seth is being unreadable as always and making questionable plays

Yeah. He’s started to trend upwards to me honestly. He’s feeling a bit more like his villager self.

@Leafia

Hmmm, this honestly feels like villagery frustration to me.

This keeps going on for pretty much all of D1, if you’re wondering. Leafia strongly bussed her teammate and was proactive, although she started slipping into her “agreeable” wolf self around D2.

Anyway, Leafia’s evil game has evolved, so it means nothing Achro. You coached her so well, it’s carried into other games.

@Leafia

I’m scumleaning you right now and trying to figure out why you’d be acting this way if you’re a villager.

Your whole reason for believing I’m a wolf seems to be because I voted you for pressure when doing so isn’t AI. That doesn’t seem to be a good reason to scumread someone to me.

@Leafia

To top it all off, you’re completely misrepresenting what I’m trying to say here and seem to be trying to make it look like I’m saying something completely different.

@Jarek

I’m scumreading you because you quoted me townleaning someone for a joke, said “this is scummy” or something and then voted me.

You’re using the “it was for pressure” argument because I’m pushing you for it and it’s not working.

@Leafia

No. I’m saying that because it really was for pressure and it did seem scummy to me because I didn’t know it was just a joke.

Think of it this way: If someone were to townread someone else for solely that reason and not as a joke, what would you think of it?

@min

jareks response seems incredibly overblown

Here’s what I’m thinking: Jarek has a fairly reasonable counterargument, Leafia dug herself into a hole, Min’s here diminishing Jarek’s defence, although not in an AI way. @min do you believe Leafia’s response was overblown?
It would be insane if Jarek and Leafia were w/w, but I don’t think Jarek plays that way?

@Leafia

I’d like to hear Achro’s reasoning for coming to Jarek’s defense too.

Here’s my reasoning: I don’t believe Jarek was misrepresenting your argument. You voted Jarek “for pressure” because he “townread” Min for a really weird reason, which means if you’re good you’re still jumping the gun. Immediately you took Jarek’s OMGUS vote and used that as your argument, superseding the original pressure reason. Jarek’s not exactly wrong.

@Leafia

As for what I think, Jarek is acting a lot like Jaiden did towards me in Morbtainado honestly, just missing everything I’m saying and not really reading it because he’s trapped in a tunnel. I just finished rereading Morbtainado for the fun of it luckily. UNVOTE for now. Jarek shifts to nulltownlean for now based on how he feels like Jaiden did in that game. Still want Achro to explain why he was so quick to take Jarek’s side though and here’s a vote for pressure Achro. VOTE: Achro

Help me out here. In Morbtainado Jaiden’s conclusion was correct, and Jarek isn’t being totally unreasonable. If anything, this reads like the pressure was mounting up and you wanted to back out, before you were executed or anything because of a vote you originally cast in RVS. The fact that you moved Jarek to nulltown lean would indicate you weren’t confident in your vote at all? Is that correct?
Moving on to voting Achro is respectable, although in light of the first post claim and how you said this earlier:

@Leafia

This seems a bit too ballsy to come from scum honestly, so enjoy your townlean Achro.

@Leafia

It’s the way it was done. A vote for pressure is a strange thing to OMGUS.

Also, OMGUSing isn’t very villagery most of the time.

Taking away my townlean on Achro too.

I’m not sure what to think, but I’m not feeling comfortable here.
I have a very simple question. @Leafia do you believe you’re playing outside your wolf range atm?

@KingTroll

someone tell me to tunnel someone else I’ll make a lot of obvtown content really quick and then I can just surf the rest of the game

Tunnel me, please. If you dare.

@Leafia

Although I do admit to being a former alien. From the U.S. I moved here to Canada three weeks ago and became a citizen here, so now I’m just another villager. How’d you know though? Is it my accent?

I know Leafia has openwolfed as evil every recent game we’ve played together in, but I can’t remember if Leafia openwolfed in Kaguya. This is just a red flag.

@alana

I’d say Jarek vs Leafia gives me TvT vibes.

I also have a townlean on CrichardFol for meta reasons he is doing early solving and I know he can be polarized in comfort level as scum. the townread on Jarek seems nuanced

btw the list of people in this game i know are Min, litten, Neon, Crichard, and Frink. Out of those people I’ve played most with Neon (three games) with the rest i’ve played only one game. I’ve spectated a bit from Crichard and Frink when they were guests on my homesite

I’m going to say that if Alana flips wolf at any point this game, I’m taking a closer look at Jarek and Leafia.

I will await townreads from the players pretending to read this and counterarguments from the people who actually did.

How Lin-Manuel Miranda Orders a Pizza

[Achromatic]

Database updated

VOTE: leafia

[Achromatic]

The pressure vote discussion from that game to this game is pretty copy/paste and the reason why i revoted leafia for the moment.

Willing to put her under sustained pressure to see what comes of it.

Finally someone acting like they are glad to be in a game with me. Hi @Magnus

[Rad]

@Magnus

I will await townreads from the players pretending to read this and counterarguments from the people who actually did.

Well, I dunno what to say besides I townread the shit out of you for this post and I read it all. I tend to be easily convinced by effort though. I have yet to be fooled by a high effort wolf, though I know they exist.

Tell me - how try hard are you as wolf?

[Rad]

@Achromatic

Database updated

VOTE: leafia

I think the quotes Magnus provided were useful but I have to really look at them in comparison to what Leafia’s presented in this game so far. I try to tone read that sort of thing to see if there’s a difference and that takes some focused attention.

You seem quickly convinced though. Can you point out what grabbed your attention specifically?

[Achromatic]

UFO Sighting Main Thread

The pressure vote discussion from that game to this game is pretty copy/paste and the reason why i revoted leafia for the moment. Willing to put her under sustained pressure to see what comes of it. Finally someone acting like they are glad to be in a game with me. Hi @Magnus

I say it here. The flicker pressure vote situation rings very similar to thia game and i dont recall leafia caring about pressure votes all that much in love is war from a quick glance.

But also i dont need too much of a reason to put pressure on a player like leafia. She is a good source of information and someone who is good to sort. All magnus did was let me know i was being too casual of my assessment of her.

[Magnus]

Hey there. It sure is nice to be playing in the same game again.

@Rad

Well, I dunno what to say besides I townread the shit out of you for this post and I read it all. I tend to be easily convinced by effort though. I have yet to be fooled by a high effort wolf, though I know they exist.

Tell me - how try hard are you as wolf?

That’s a difficult question. I have exactly one recent wolf game — the last game before that was BOTC, which took place back in February. I did win that game, so I can clearly act good, but I can’t say I tried very hard that game.

Of course, I took a long break before Morbtainado, and I’ve been playing differently since. My recent wolf game was '80s Wild Ride, a light bastard rolemadness where I was partnered with Gyr and Bean. Scumchat had nearly 900 posts, close to half of them being mine, and I was borderline town cleared D1 socially. We failed four nightkills in a row and I eventually stopped going for the win, claiming something really stupid to be funny.

In other words: it’s a coinflip. But it doesn’t matter, I’m good this game. Trust me.

[CRichardFortressLies]

Frink is a slot I should take a good look at.
They made this post.

@FRink

kingtroll is in
rad is out
alana can hang out

Which hasn’t gone anywhere so far.
This is the sort of slot in which I have trouble finding reasons to town read them.

[Achromatic]

I will have a read on frink by eod1 probably. I have played with them before.

[CRichardFortressLies]

Hello Magnus, how are you?
I’ll read through your starting post, especially your take on the Jarek/Leafia argument earlier.

[CRichardFortressLies]

@Magnus

the last game before that was BOTC, which took place back in February.

I hosted that game, and town potatoing two executions in a row is a bruh moment.

[Magnus]

I am feeling good. I’m feeling grounded, in fact.
How are you feeling, CRichard? Do you feel like your head’s in the clouds?

[Achromatic]

@Magnus from my experience when scum call something v/v they are usually being honest for town cred in regards to leafia and jarek re:alana

[Magnus]

Partnering an evil player with a good player by calling them both good is one of the oldest tricks in the book, is it not? It’s the reason why everyone remembers the rule of three.

[CRichardFortressLies]

I’m feeling good. As for your latter question, No.

[Achromatic]

Yeah but for some reason people love rule of 3s but not rule of 2s.

[Magnus]

I’ll have to keep that in mind.
Since someone else brought it up, I’ve already been introduced to Min, Neon, Achro, KT, Leafia, Gyr, Litten, Jarek and CRichard, meaning I don’t know Porscha, Rad, Alana or FRink.