Tales of the Abyss - Town Victory!

[Magnus]

@SultanOfSlam

Not to be rude but how do you exspect me to know what youre talking about posting an entire game worth of content?

Sorry. That game was a semi-flipless open setup, which had a player suggest for all the power roles to act obvious enough to be identified anyway. Leafia then outright claimed town power on the second day as Mafia.

[Marluna]

I disagree, in my opinion they have more strong stances than me. (You just don’t understand their symbol system.)

[Magnus]

I get it now. You’re concerned about executing a PR claim, I was wondering why the change the heart.

[ElizaThePsycho]

@Hazardwaste

this comment suggests leafia is currently deathtunneling town. Eliza is very sure then achro is good

you know it took me way too long to realize that I said deathtunneled town

[Marluna]

@IfGodCouldDie

Ok so what information does either of their flips provide?

So… you suggest we doesn’t lynch anyone D1? Because most flip doesn’t give us any info at this point…

[Marluxion]

VC

Leafia (5): Mr.L, Prophylaxis, Achromatic, Hippopablompoyeetus, Zenon
May (2): Hazardwaste, Leafia
Achromatic (1): Lea
IfGodCouldDie (1): Kiiruma
sulit (1): SultanOfSlam
Magnus (1): IfGodCouldDie

Not Voting (7): Garfooled, Frostwolf103, ElizaThePsycho, Magnus, May, Marluna, sulit

Day Ends at 2023-04-16T19:00:00Z

[ElizaThePsycho]

wait ur a pr

[Magnus]

Leafia claimed PR.

[Marluna]

She claimed a PR, which is alligned with a mafia role, if I understood correctly.

[ElizaThePsycho]

oh

[ElizaThePsycho]

i was gonna say “what are the odds igcd is SK who knows magnus is lying”

[Frostwolf103]

@Magnus

Frost is in my POE, and flipping wolf would codify my current readlist, same as Leafia’s flip will for most people. This would arguably clear Hippo and Sulit, and has odd implications for Kiiruma’s alignment as well.

I don’t see how that clears Hippo, Sulit and Kiiruma’s alignment, hypothetically everyone is equally suspicious.

[Marluna]

@ElizaThePsycho

i was gonna say “what are the odds igcd is SK who knows magnus is lying”

The correct question. “What are the odds, SK knows Leafia telling the truth.” (Answer: it’s 100%)

The next question: “does the SK wants to save a town PR?” (I don’t know, to be honest.)

[Marluna]

Btw…
They are 4 other roles, which would know Leafia’s claim is fake, if their role has rolled this game.

[IfGodCouldDie]

Not sure how you get that from me asking what information flips provide, but I am always 100% for lynching except in final 4’s I prefer to make scum make a move.

[IfGodCouldDie]

Also to clarify, D1 lynches tend to provide the most information which is why they are so important.

[Magnus]

I don’t know how relevant that is. Allegedly, one of Leafia’s main tricks to get off the block is to claim town PR, even if it conflicts with her prior story.

Flicker

@Leafia

Now to analyze the voters on me and list them from least wolfy to most wolfy. Also, I should claim now too. I know yuh ou’re expecting me to claim a PR because that’s what I always claim when I’m scum, but I’m just a VT this game unfortunately. I don’t have any abilities at all. Also, I’d say at least 2-3 wolves are voting for me right now. I highly.doubt all four of my voters are wolves though.

@Leafia

Also, I’ve never claimed VT as a wolf nor do I think I’ll ever do so. Especially when I’m the largest wagon and when the wolves are close to winning.

@Leafia

May, you’re probably a pretty powerful wolf and if I was a wolf, I’d be claiming PR. I always do as a wolf, yet I’m claiming VT. You’re ignoring everything that doesn’t fit your agenda if getting me misexed right now and even your proposed wolfteams with me in them make no sense whatsoever if you think about them for more than 5 seconds.

@Leafia

Yes I am and time to reveal something. I’m not actually VT. I’m a roleblocker and I roleblocked May last night because after Jaiden’s flil, I felt she was definitely scum TMIing him town and I was hoping she’d try doing the night kill.

UFO

@Leafia

I’m dead if I claim but it seems I’m dead either way. I’m a town bodyguard. I protected Neon last night and it’s possible I saved her from being killed which is why I’m considering that a nuet might’ve poisoned you Achro.

@Leafia

Ah. Doublechecking my rolecard solved the issue. I really need to read things closer. There’s also another cateat. Watchers can’t see me visit.

@Leafia

Yup. I knew it. I was joking about the ninja stuff too.

@Leafia

If CRich somehow flips town, I’ll accept my execution tomorrow without complaint. All I want is a chance to prove that I’m a villager and if you weren’t redirected, why didn’t you see anyone on Neon? There’s no way no protectives were going to be on her with her claim.

Strategem-27

@Leafia

@Litten

In order to combat that, everyone should claim that they are not the hider if they are not the hider too.

I’m not the hider either.

@Leafia

I have an idea that’ll clear me too, one way or another. Whoever the hider is can hide behind me tonight. One way or another, I’ll be cleared, either through dying with the hider if wolves attack me, or the hider surviving if they don’t.

@Leafia

I’m either the hider or the hider is dead. If I’m the hider then I hid behind Magnus N1 and if we execute a villager if I’m the hider, I won’t hide behind anyone tonight so the wolves won’t have the chance to kill me alongside another villager. Whether or not I’m being truthful about that or not if I’m the hider will be up to the wolves to decide.

@Leafia

And yet you voted for me over Zenon, who you had been certain for the longest time was a wolf and despite thinking the hider was alive, you vote for the only person softing hider. You just howled big time there.

@Leafia

I’m not panicking. I have nothing to panic about.

[IfGodCouldDie]

@Magnus

Frost is in my POE, and flipping wolf would codify my current readlist, same as Leafia’s flip will for most people. This would arguably clear Hippo and Sulit, and has odd implications for Kiiruma’s alignment as well.

How does Frost as wolf clear Hippo or Sulit and what implications does it present for Kiiruma?

[Mr.L]

What do you think about Chris’ reads on Magnus?

[IfGodCouldDie]

Im not sure what his read on Magnus is at the moment but if he believes Magnus is town I think it is wrong.