[GAME THREAD 6/13] Risky Light Game: Featuring Rain - Day 4 - Mafia wonnered

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Stage 2: Wetland Aspect

Yeah, I had to. I had no choice. Marion knew - and she was always so much stronger. So much stronger than all of us.

And it worked, it really did! Marion saved all of us. The dagger - it saved Pugh and Larsen and Dillon. Carney and Stevens.

But Pugh saw - he saw and he didn’t understand. How could he? I tried to tell him - I ran over to him. But I couldn’t convince him otherwise, and he was so crazy - so crazy! He wouldn’t shut up and the golems were coming and the dagger - there was no choice.

Everyone was real somber that night. We lost Hitchcock and Marion and Pugh. Real somber. Later on, Carney found the book from a nearby chest. And it really all made sense - it did! I knew why Marion had that dagger and why I had to be the one to kill her. And Carney? He was too strong. I couldn’t risk him not understanding. He wouldn’t understand.

But Carney was big. Everyone else would’ve known. So that night, after I killed him, I went and took his body to the Altar. And I hid the Altar - right at the edge of the cliff, between two clusters of roots, in a cave underneath. And in that cave… I worshipped Her Concepts.

The rest? Well, they were so old and so tired. They were just gifts for N’kuhana. And She loved them.

Weshan.

Local audio transcriptions complete.

credit to Hopoo Games for the lore that i am shamelessly stealing for flavor you cant stop me im lazy but play risk of rain 2 its a good game


Day 2 has begun and will end at 2021-12-04T00:00:00Z, or sooner if majority is reached. The 50 post cap will be lifted at 2021-12-03T23:00:00Z.

With 11 alive, majority is 6.

You may now post.

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PLEASE READ THIS POST

I don’t care if you agree or disagree, but I want you to feel what I felt, and understand the game from my perspective. I’m not looking to argue, I’m trying to be found. So if you can find me, please find me here. Thank you.

1.

Day 1 starts, and I start pushing Leafia.
#26
#30

#41

#45

#51

2.

Professor takes a stance of immediately defending Leafia.
Several posts, but this is confirmed later on #56

3.
Professor basically asks me what they can do to be town read by me.
#49

4.

I treat Professor with respect, giving benefit of the doubt regarding two subjects. The first being that I’m not going to tell them how to be town read, just play the game and if they’re town I will find them. Second, that I raise my concerns that it feels like they’re defending Leafia off of virtually nothing. #54

5.
Aelin enters the thread, feeding off of my suspicion of Professor while simultaneously shading me in the same post, finishing up with a vote on Professor.
#74

6.
Professor starts developing town read vibes on Aelin.
#80

7.

If you skipped the beginning, start reading here

This is where Aelin posts about a particular conspiracy theory that caught my attention. At first I thought it was villagers paranoia, but I later revisited it in the day and again last night, and I see it completely different.

Aelin proposes the following:
A.That I am a wolf with Professor.
B.That Professor and I taking opposite stances on Leafia so that we appear unaligned.
C. Read this post, I think Aelin TMIs Leafia as Town.

Now I realize that at this point in the game, Professor has been getting heat. To me, this reads a lot more like Aelin trying to tie a potential early Professor flip to insinuate that I am Mafia with Professor. I did not realize this at the time, again, I even TOWNREAD Aelin for what I thought was paranoia.

#82

8.

This is where I realize something is suspicious between Aelin and Professor.

#

Professor makes a post saying that they don’t have TMI, then proceeds to state TMI that he’s saving Leafia. It rubbed me the super wrong way.

Then I notice Aelin quotes the same part, and gives a completely different reaction village reading Professor’s tone.

So like… that’s suspect. But I still haven’t put it all together yet.

9.
It isn’t until this post that I remember to look back at Aelin’s conspiracy theory again.
#150

10.
Trochilidate village read me, and Aelin responds to her by shading me in post #239

What I got out of this was that Aelin was largely making up a lot of it, interpreting what I was saying in negative lights, instead of asking me for clarification. This felt a lot less like solving, and it felt a lot more like a misinformation campaign to smear my name to Trochilidae.

11.
I explain, directly to Aelin my concerns above, as well as some clarifications in post #298

At this point I still think there may be some Town motivation for Aelin doing this. It thought MAYBE this is Aelin baiting Trochilidae for reactions.

12.
Aelin’s response was completely devoid of reason in possibly reaction testing Trochilidae. Instead they act like I’ve offended them by speaking to them directly. It’s like I was just being straight up gaslighted. #299

13.
So since Aelin’s post didn’t show me ANYTHING I could see Town reason coming from, I prod further in #301. I like to give as much benefit of the doubt because people do dumb things for no reason irrespective of alignment. This is like my third attempt at figuring out Aelin in a row.

14.
Instead Aelin gives me this #304 So like… I don’t know what to do with this. It doesn’t address my concerns, it’s just another weird side step. So anyway, I’m go to the gym.

15.
I’m reading along at he gym when I see an open coordination between Professor and Aelin, and at this point my paranoia alarm is going off, I can see this unfolding exactly like I thought, they could definitely be wolves together. So I post to make sure I don’t forget here #322

16.
I explain more or less my my theory just so at least it’s in the thread #366

17.
I do some minor analysis on who has been posting, who has been voting, who has been interacting, how have people been interacting, and I found Pigeon to have amongst the least voting and interaction diversity, I look into their ISO more and the result is this:
#367 This is my attempt at coordinating efforts so we can all unite under at least one main wagon that isn’t dictated by wolves or last minute whims.

18.
Pigeon claims, the pigeon wagon dissipates, the cloned wagon gains traction, and there is no alternative counter wagon popping up. Stuff keeps happening on my end while this is happening. I spill my water bottle, my laptop dies, now I’m on mobile, and I’m trying to follow the wagons. There is no alternative wagon. So I’m thinking, okay, Cloned being a runaway wagon would just be Cloned is Mafia, and Mafia are jumping on late for credit here. No, why wouldn’t Mafia go for a counterwagon? Maybe this was a planned power bus? I don’t know what the heck is going on at this point but I have VERY VERY little time left #526

19.
There is no reasonable counter wagon, and it would be dumb to vote Pigeon here, especially if there is a sneak blitz vote onto Pigeon, so I just go for Eli because they showed up at end of day and frankly they just annoyed me #532 All of our interactions were just bad. My main thought was, is Eli even reading the thread?

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If you’ve read this, thank you very much, I appreciate it. If you have found me, please let me know. If you haven’t, I will be putting exceptional effort into today to where it will become impossible for anyone to not have found me.

Today I’d like to pressure Aelin, Professor, and hold EliThePsycho, and [b]Gorta[/v] accountable to play more.

/Vote Aelin @Host_Account_2

@Frog

@BradLand

@Aelin

@Squirrel2412

@illwei

@Leafia

@Magnus

@Gorta

@ElizaThePsycho

@Professor

@thepigeonnyc

@Trochilidae

I felt like shit after that mislynch especially because I couldn’t wrap my head around Pigeon being a wolf and not self-pressing on cloned until that late, but with that flip I’m vindicated and ready to go

/vote Trochilidae @Host_Account_2

I think the way they handled eod was incredibly meticulous and methodical. I think they didn’t want to get their hands dirty and knew what we were getting into with v/v wagons

this is all i see

yes
but i gained nothing because it was merely a light skim

Hmmm, you might be onto something with Aelin being a wolf, but I think I’ll wait and see how Aelin responds to this before deciding my thoughts on her.

I’ll have to ISO Trochi later to be honest to see if this has any merit.

Actually, I think I’ll do that now.

Voted Voters Votes
Aelin Frog 1/6
Trochilidae Professor 1/6
Not Voting BreadLand, Aelin, Squirrel2412, illwei, Leafia, Magnus, Gorta, EliThePsycho, Trochilidae 9

:joy_cat:

I also think Frog can and is likely to be mafia

His wallpost doesn’t help because I can already see a number of mistruths and misrepresentations that I will respond to later

Looking at what he’s actually done from my perspective is not a pretty sight - exclusively pushing villagers (me, Aelin, Leafia, Pigeon) yesterday, including a PR, and is now trying to push another 2 villagers

Tell me who else are villagers, please, TMI more

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greetings all, low-effort Soren has returned (though i wish it were under better circumstances). though…i feel incredibly vindicated to know i was right about something for once.

i am both of these things, and as such i view the game in that matter. now- why is a difference in the way we approach the game AI to you?
but oh, pardon me for not wanting to vote a very reasonable protective claim, and being frustrated that the other wagon was someone i would rather not have seen dead. i refuse to apologize for how we handled EOD.

additionally before i read the rest of this, don’t call me a girl. both applicable sets of pronouns were stated. she is neither.

@Frog

@BradLand

@Aelin

@Squirrel2412

@illwei

@Leafia

@Magnus

@Gorta

@ElizaThePsycho

@Professor

@Trochilidae

Everyone in the game, I bringing this to your attention.

Professor:

  1. OMGUS
  2. Shades the long form of my post
  3. Basically calls me a liar - I literally included all of the quotes
  4. Claims that 1: TMI that all I’ve done is push villagers
  5. Claims that pushing villagers = wolf, despite literally just yesterday yeeting ClonedCheese

@Host_Account_2

/vote Professor

Has a buddying feel to it that I think feels a bit wolfy if you ask me.

I think his wanting to solve my slot is villagery. Sure, it could be faked, but it just feels like it comes from a villager.

He’s honestly correct here and him pointing that out is >rand v I feel. I’m not sure if a wolf would point that out.

More solving from him. I think it paints him in a good light honestly.

I probably was looking too deeply into it in hindsight and Trochi up to this point has been using his posts wisely and it feels like a genuine attempt to figure things out.

Not sure what he means by waffling but his frustration at no one engaging with him besides me feels villagery.

I doubt a wolf would be annoyed at being looked over like Trochi is.

One more point in Trochi’s favor is that he seems like he wants to draw his own conclusions on me instead of sheeping the wolfread on me that a lot of people had early in the day and with everything I’ve seen in Trochi’s iso, I’m fine with giving him a townread for now.

Oh I’m sorry, I assumed, my bad

sigh
i posted what i did in the signup thread specifically to avoid this. note to all: they/them please.

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Ah okay. I’ll remember this too.

Post 49:

This post is not doing what you claim it to be. I’m not sure how indicative lying about this really is, but it isn’t helping me to take your points seriously.

That is not TMI. That is me saying that I will try to stop someone who I think is town from being mislynched Day 1, when they are often mislynched Day 1.

I don’t really follow this thought. Why would your impression be that the counterwagon to the person you are scumreading is a wolf, and then why would you assume the people voting them are wolves bussing them instead of trying to make the claimed PR go over??

I don’t actually think this post is that bad in terms of a recap of your thoughts. Though I don’t see how it has helped to provide any more solving or any new thoughts, and it consists mainly of IIOA and LAMIST.


No, you aren’t. You’re usually more chaotic, more jumpy and more concerned about what’s happening at crucial points of the game. But your posting at EoD1 was none of that. It didn’t seem like you were playing by discovery. It looked like you already knew what was going to happen. There was no vote movement, there was no real attempt to change anything, only background commentary. I will probably pull up a few quotes later.

Pigeon’s claim was NAI. In fact, I would go so far as to say it was wolfy by how he claimed it an a response to someone asking what they would do if they were a different PR, rather than as a standalone statement. If you really didn’t want to vote the person you thought could be a PR and the person you townread, I entirely believe village you would have tried harder to go somewhere else.

It’s… only partially OMGUS, really. Overnight I thought about why you were town and couldn’t come up with any solid reasoning given that I think you have exclusively been pushing villagers this game for… not great reasoning.

I have written a write-up now.

Unfortunately you did lie about one of my posts. I doubt it is AI though.

Hmm. Yes. I think this is all you have done.

You have only pushed dead villagers or people that I think are villagers, and you didn’t try to save either of the flipped villagers at any point. You are not a bad player, and so I think this is more likely to be representative of your wolfgame. Granted, I sent clonedcheese to the DVC but I saved a PR being mislynched in the process. A wolf would want pigeon to be yeeted over cloned rather than nightkilled in case the PR claim was a bluff.

@Professor

The biggest thing making me think that Frog is a villager is the way he stopped the mislynch on me and I can’t fathom why a wolf would do that. What do you think is the reason for Frog doing that if Frog is a wolf?

did nobody read what i posted beforehand? i am neither chaotic nor jumpy, i was exhausted, and i did not know what to do.

pigeon’s claim was far from NAI. i did not expect pigeon of all people to come up with odd two-shot doctor out of absolutely nowhere were it not his genuine role. and you seem to have forgotten that both wagons were incredibly close at the time, i chose to vote my townread rather than let the PR claim go over. also- i seem to recall a few quotes from you earlier that indicated you weren’t very familiar with me, i’ll try and pull them up when i have a chance. that will affect my read on you greatly.

The problem with this is that I had already made it very clear that I was going to defend you had it looked like you were actually going to end up dying by the end of the day. Given the insights I have provided into your meta, it is possible that Frog knew I would be able to convince people that you were town and so wanted to get the credit for saving you before I could.

I feel like… you’re giving Frog a lot of credit for something that was mainly someone else’s doing.

I’m going to be honest, after Trochi I don’t really know who else I wolfread. I mainly included Frog for posterity and to have another wolfread, because after Trochi I think they have the most wolf equity.